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If the Swiss fall as well - and who would bet agaisnt it - our only hope by Friday is a lowball bid from Salz.

Any chance you might be right this time Morph?

Fialka made no mention of any manager. The Chief Scouting Photocopier Salesman did though.

I agree. Wotte is clearly having a dig at the gloriously foolish MJ.

For someone who looks like they've been whacked in the face once too often by a frying pan, MJ should have known better.

I've never been a fan of Wotte, but to my mind he's one of the very few people whose reputation has been enhanced during the ridiculous chirades that have been played out in the last few weeks. (The ever-willing Leon and born optimist MLT being the other two. Leon in particular has clearly kept the club on life-support for at least two months).

Isn't it funny how it's the Saints stalwarts who are doing their damndest to save the club while the 'fresh-blood' takeover wheeler-dealers give us all the run around - at apparently no cost to themselves?

I was a supporter of the Pinnacle bid, FWIW. But we seem to have entered this weird Twilight Zone, where we have: one backer or multiple (unnamed) backers; proof of funds or the hope that someone else has the cash; an exclusivity period paid by Pinnacle or by Leon; £500,000 or more (or less); a situation where one mouthy poster appears to have had the legal frighteners put on him...or not, and where another seems to have fallen strangely silent after posting what appears to have been sensitive information.

Not that the other two bids fill me with wonder. Both the 'Swiss' and the MJ bids are from equally anonymous financial sources, offering who knows what - but less than Pinnacle. And then there's the Salz cheerleaders suggesting he's playing the wily fox game and waiting for everything to go pear-shaped before picking the club up for 50p.

When was as fans are asked to 'get behind' a bid, could someone at least do us the courtesy of telling us the truth?

Hope everyone likes Pinnacle!!! Likely you need a moneyman. He assures Saints a great united new age together. Many years healing enemies and debts.

Looks like TL got you full on the lips there GM. I hope you're very happy together.

I am seriously loosing the plot here.

 

So can i conclude from this that GM and speculator, are actually one and the same person?

 

Or is it that so many people on here are now being sarcastic that we are in a situation of double sarcasm meaning a comment is actually genuine.

 

Christ! lol

 

While on that subject are Mole and Stanley the same person????

 

Any other twins on here that we know of?

Well, perhaps the best way of dealing with it all is to accept, like Alice Through the Looking Glass, that nothing is as it seems.

As to who’s who, try shouting ‘John’ in a crowded room and you’ll pick out the spinning heads of the Tweedledee and Tweedledum in this little fantasy, GM and 19C. Mole is Stanley. And TL/MF share top billing at the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party.

And those bits of paper with wings attached fluttering over the whole scene are the lawsuits that will land the minute a deal is done.

On the other hand, you may wake up and none of this is true.

I don't get it. Isn't the time for humble pie when the deal is done? Otherwise one is liable to discover egg on one's face rather than pie crumbs.

Still, I hope SOMEONE buys the club soonish.

And would it really be such a bad idea for the other moneybags behind the rival bids - if there are still two - to say who they are? The secrecy in all this is a bit odd.

Jesus wept. Do you not think that Fry wouldn't have had a closer look at the money behind the bid than a cursory look.

 

He's not selling a packet of peanuts is he.

I think you missed my point. As for the money (which I didn't comment on), we'll see.

Echo today at 1200

 

MARK Fry has admitted he is satisfied that Michael Fialka DOES have the money to complete a takeover.

 

The administrator said he had seen the Echo’s exclusive story yesterday regarding Fialka’s background and his companies’ financial positions.

 

“I have seen stories myself and clearly they are very a cursory look into the background of the individual concerned,” he said.

 

“As far as I am aware that individual is from a substantially wealthy family.

 

“There are other people surrounding that individual that are also involved in the Pinnacle Group.

 

“It is referred to as the group because that’s what it is.

'As far as I am aware' is hardly a ringing endorsement, is it?

Precisely translated it means: 'To the limited extent of my knowledge.' I take it to mean that Fry actually had no idea of Fialka's family situation - living at home, Dad a taxi driver, Mum a small shop owner.

It seems entirely possible that the 'cursory look' was a little closer to home.

Perhaps Fry can sell enough exclusivity periods to get us through the season.

So Jackson has either lied about approaching Peter Reid or tapped him up. Brilliant!

I'm starting to wonder if this club has been relegated to some sort of plot twist in a Samuel Beckett play, because it's becoming increasingly hard to believe that we could have accumulated such a prize collection as LLS, tommac, HMR, (not forgetting Lowe, Askham...etc.), without someone just making up characters so utterly monomaniacal, vain and witless.

Waitig for Jacko. Oh god, please no.

My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson.

 

Time to bring in the professionals.

 

Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay.

 

But enough is enough IMHO

 

Regards

 

 

Morph

Morph, I've always been interested in what you say, but I've noticed a pretty firm trend setting in: you tend to be wrong far more often than you're right.

Besides, Salz has an excellent financial pedigree of course - but isn't he a fairly precise definition of a tyre kicker? Someone who wanders round the SFC forecourt saying, in effect, 'I'm just looking - honest. But if you're desperate, I'll take this heap off your hands. Here's 50p.'

As I'm sure any car salesman will tell you, anyone who, like Lynam, strolls up and splashes out bundles of cash with no guarantee of an end sale is about as far removed from a tyrekicker as it's possible to imagine.

And it's not exactly cricket to compare Lynam with the incomparable MJ, is it?

I'm not getting at you (actually I blame trousers) - but shouldn't you try a bit harder to come off a bit less than an unquestioning cheerleader?

Salz must have a pretty badly bruised toe after all this time - IF what you say is true for once.

Which puts the tin hat on any talk of "natural justice" on either side firmly in the bin, then. Good, that was the point I was making.

 

The news that Pinnacle are paying the wages on Thursday is excellent.

I wonder if you'd agree to be culled. Humanely, of course. And nothing personal. It's just that there are two many damned Frys in all this - bank managers, administrators and impersonators of Howard Beale.

Or perhaps we could merge all the Frys into one super-Fry.

A mad-as-hell human torpedo of businesses and forums.

Just thought.

I think a class act and possibly one of the reason's Matty was confering with Kevin Keegan would be Denis Wise. A Saint, one who desperately wanted the managers job after Harry left. He refused to kow tow to Lowe, left and went on gained fantastic experience, not only at Swindon but at Leeds in League Oner with minus 17 points. After he has had top experience working in an executive role with the likes of Keegan. He knows a good player when he sees one. Not exactly a smooth ride but one in which he fought on against northern prejudice, and will have learned one hell of a lot.

 

Wise, for me, is just the former Saint that we need at this time.

To say I'd be happy if you were wrong would be an understatement. In any case, Keegan and Wise apparently loathe each other.

If this is the comedy awards, there's no contest.

Sadly it's worse than that though. MJ has the depressing capacity to be just as destructive as that dimwit tommac with his share-price ramping antics and fatuous pretence that he was Paul Allen's representative on earth.

We should settle it with a penalty shoot out between the two.

Once again, this puts Pinnacle in a terribly unprofessional light.

 

There is absolutely no reason why this needed to be a last minute issue. This should be been discussed and resolved with the FA over the last 3 weeks, if not before.

 

Transferring registration is hardly a surprise event that jumped out of nowhere to shock Pinnacle - they woulpd have known about this all along. The fact they ignored the issue and let it slip past their exclusivity period is not impressive.

 

Once again, the doubts I expressed right at the start of this "takeover" are coming to the fore. I have exactly the same feelings as I did with Mike Wilde - I continue to wish with all my heart that I am wrong this time.

This is just an appalling post. Attacking Pinnacle is one thing. Doing it by making supposition after supposition to show them in the worst light really brings your motives into serious question.

How do you KNOW that there was no reason why this became a last minute issue?

How do you KNOW that Pinnacle had not been in discussion with the FL (NOT the FA, by the way)

How do you KNOW that Pinnacle ignored the issue and 'let it slip' past their exclusivity period.

The answer to all of the above is that you don't. And yet each implicit claim to superior ITK is essential to your case that you appear to have known all along, at least in your own mind, that your 'doubts' would be realised. And all of the above are essential to your apparent belief that Pinnacle are exactly on a par with the cretinous Wilde.

Surreal.

I think it's time to take a good look at 'Lord' Mawhinney's expenses.

Thursday? Oh my God...don't they realise that will disturb the space time continuum to the point of no return?

If you travelled out into the universe fast enough, you could return the day before you left. That's probably what was meant by 'Thursday'.

HTH.

From the London Dock strike of 1889, the Southampton Dock strike of 1890, the formation of the radical BSU in 1911, the 1912 Strike beatings,the 1926 General Strike, the 1945 Dock strike, the formation of the NDLB etc etc etc through to it's abolition in the 1980's, Southampton has always been at the forefront of strikes and union activism, but not ne record of S.C.U.M. anywhere:rolleyes::rolleyes: except for some saddos inventing it in the 1990's :smt046

Add another one to the list, um - the ‘Governor Eyre incident’ of 1865. Edward Eyre was Jamaica’s colonial governor, who directed a massacre against an uprising among the island’s peasants. Hundreds were killed and the survivors flogged. Defenders of his idiocy argued that black peasants were like British workers and required similar treatment.

Shortly afterwards, Eyre was attending a banquet in his honour in Southampton - a city known then as the 'gateway to the empire'. But the dinner broke up in chaos because of a vast rally by Southampton’s dockworkers, among others, and led by the 'Jamaica Committee' (formed by the John Stuart Mill). It was at that time the largest public gathering in the city’s history.

The Daily Telegraph, revealingly, moaned that ‘there are a good many negroes in Southampton, who have the taste of their tribe for any disturbance that appears safe and who are probably imbued with the conviction that it is the proper thing to hoot and yell at a number of gentlemen going to a dinner party.’ Of course, the ‘negroes’ were the very English and very white Southampton dock and factory workers, who won the day.

Eyre never set foot in Southampton again.

Here endeth the history lesson.

LOL, how long have been away dd?

 

We are pretty **** nowadays (have been for some time), and really do have to ditch this 'big club' delusion, we really do. Having said all that, I do like proper cup competitions and if we can get to Wembley in any competition or the play-offs I will cream my jeans.

Quite agree. And the first thing we have to do is downgrade this forum. It's still Championship quality, with occasional bursts of Premiership class. What we need is a real League One forum, where we gaze with wonderment at a fixture list that has us matched against the mighty Milton Keynes Dons, and get all tingly about a trip to the football factory that is Brentford.

If only there was a way to make it more crap on here.

Or not. I'm sticking with my delusions.

Have to agree. Sometimes I think some of these posters need to take a step back from the keyboard and really read these posts. Surely then they will realise what utter tosh this thread has turned into.

Could you please direct me to a tosh-free thread? Tosh is what we do best.

That's an easy one

 

He isn't a successful businessman!

Fifteen Love.

Bit of a soft point though. Nineteen just lobbed that one up to you. Maybe being useless is infectious.

But it does appear to be based on fact i.e. that Pinnacle did not stump up the full £500K as requested. It was also not denied by Tony Lynam.

Pinnacle have never claimed that they paid £500,000 up front. Nor has Fry. Only some sloppy reporting by the Daily Echo gave the impression that they did.

BTW, don't forget the bleedin obvious when asking the why? question.....

 

 

Our nickname is what exactly?

And that has it's links and origns from where exactly?

 

Perhaps if we dropped the nickname we would be more successful

 

smiley winkey ironic thingy;)

True enough, Phil - although saints are common in Sufi Islam. (In fact, they're a defining feature of Sufism). Unfortunately, the oil happened to be under the feet of a narrow, unpopular sect founded by a violent misogynist, whose followers were driven out of Mecca, Medina and the Arabian Peninsula by the Ottomans, and who were put back into power by Lawrence of Arabia.

Perhaps if we kept our nickname we'd avoid being taken over by the descendants of these charmers!

Always look on the bright side...

Would someone mind summarizing the past 600+ posts with a simple answer to the original question?

Thanks awfully.

And by the way, why the mystery in the first place? Seems odd to me that we know the identities of the multi-billionaires bidding for that termite heap down the road and others, and yet we're still here playing a guessing game with contracts all but signed.

Doesn't matter I love the really big tits the really big mature ones who love using emoticons especially.

Strange. I had you down as more of an ar$e man - our very own Sacha Baron Canteen, landing upside down on the forum.