Waterside.saint

That’sa good point

Sadly I think it’s a root and branch fresh start- sell up and begin again. Otherwise we’ll be seen as pariahs for the foreseeable

Really? I'd like to think so too, but the cynic in me thinks.... not.

Unbelievable. Someone must've OK'd this, and that someone should go

Nah.. its just people luvin' the bants on this thread

I’m trying to think positive and view this mess as good training for VAR

If 'multiverse' theories are correct, this is very likely

From the Beeb- haven't seen this posted here yet: Boro want Saints to be thrown out of the play-offs, arguing that spying on their preparation "goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition". If Southampton are found guilty - and they have not issued any kind of denial - then all options are on the table for the independent disciplinary commission. The hearing began at 09:00 BST and a decision is expected later on Tuesday, but there is the chance it could drag on into Wednesday. It all comes down to how much time is needed for deliberations. No-one can predict how this will end. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87ql0g27jno

I was waiting for that

Well it's about time for someone ITK to predict 'something big' at 2pm

I suppose if they're being paid by the EFL they might be limited on hours, goodness knows what a KC's hourly rate is now

shared grandparents?

Same. My grandad read The Times because it had a reputation for probity. The day 'The Thunderer' became another Murdoch rag I stopped buying it.

I heard he's going to Middlesborough