Unbelievable Jeff

I find it strange how narrow minded someone who is so progressive in their thinking is. Either that, or you do it to annoy people. It seems you are the troll a number of us have been discussing you were. Please put me on ignore, as you will be going on my list - that's a very select group you find yourself with - Glasgow, Barry Sanchez, Dune and Alpine.

Lou, I think you are getting this whole discussion wrong. I will break it down into bullet points for you: - I think sexism at football is wrong, but the world is not just black and white. GYTOFTL is very mild sexism. What was shouted at the physio was pretty sick and is towards the other end of the scale. - Different people react to things in different ways. What I am trying to get at here is that some women would get offended by the above, some people wouldn't. You do, so you think EVERYONE should. That's not how the world works. - You say that most women suffer from sexism on a day to day basis. I really, really, don't think this is true, unless we're living in the Middle East. I'm sure some of your groupies will be along in a minute to defend you on this (very sexist btw, thinking you can't defend yourself) but from the people I have asked none of them see sexism as a big problem anymore. - Personally, I think shows like 'Take Me Out' which is shown primetime to millions of people all over the country on a weekly basis is more dangerous to both the males and females views on sexism than a couple of chants from a couple of idiots that has been widely condemned. - Similarly, porn that depicts harrassment, rape, torture, domination, humiliation, irrespective on whether that is shown in private, or whether it is acted or real.

I don't think I have ever debated anything with you Sue, even under previous usernames, so personally I won't cast aspersions on your character or on what you have written in the past. I actually find it hard to believe that you lot think a few idiots singing GYTOFTL is more damaging to women than porn, and a whole generation of boys growing up thinking that women are just there for our personal gratification. Is it just me that finds this utterly ridiculous?????

Fine, if you think tha GYTOFTL is more damaging to women than porn, then that's your opinion. Personally, I think we're creating a generation of children, mainly men, who will spend their time disrespecting women more due to watching that, rather than a few numbskulls shouting stupid, irreverent chants. But as I said, that's your opinion.

Go to http://www.xvideos.com That stuff.

Yes, I agree p0rn is far more damaging, but that's the point.

Yes, I'm talking about nowadays??

Ha, no, but it certainly is one of the catalysts of it imho.

Water biscuit with some nice cheese...

Fine. I can see that. However, I don't think you watch 80% of p0rn, as the list of bad things is what a vast amount of p0rn is about - and its not a new thing. What I do find funny is for the main part I have agreed with everything you've said (which I have said a number of times, but you obviously haven't read my posts correctly). However, I think you are wildly inconsistent in what you think is sexist, that's all, and for someone who talks with such authority (ie if we don't agree with the sexism oracle we're narrow minded) it certainly confuses me. You seem to have an issue with the acts of sexism, but no problem with what CREATES those issues.

This is the most frustrating thing, and why I have actually decided you're trolling half the time with this sexism ****, is that you deflect any questions that I specifically have asked of you. I expect you can't explain why you don't mind p0rn, yet find GYTOFTL so offensive, as I think it will invalidate your whole sexism argument. Fair enough, it's pretty **** to be hypocritical over something you very blatantly feel passionate over, but **** me, that takes the biscuit. Anyway, off to watch some rape p0rn, unsure if it's real or not, but who cares, there is no issue with that according to the Saintsweb sexism moderator.

**** off! This is a joke yeah? You spend your time criticising us due to disagreeing with your over-zealous hyperbolic view on feminism, where 'nice tits' is abhorrent sexist antagonism, yet you don't really see a problem with p0rn. You must be ****ing trolling. Seriously.

Yep. But I think we all said that earlier.

Good, we're all agreed then. It's non-funny banter gone wrong.

Ha! I think Lou views me and Hypo as Chris Finch types...

I find the industry of 'Male strippers' too male dominant. I feel the industry would certainly benefit from more female male strippers.

I know it's a very simplistic theory to put across, but do you ACTUALLY disagree? I bet the blokes who shout 'Nice Tits' at Lou aren't Doctors, or Lawyers, or Actuary's.

Any hole's a goal.

Had to mention rape didn't you?

He was. Bearsy respects Gandy. Just didnt want to come across gay.

Why haven't I? I'm not a very attractive bloke. I don't have washboard abs, or a great little goatee. I would say I am below average. But **** happens!

Honestly, hand on heart, I thought, "**** me, even I'd have a go on that". He's an adonis. Swear on my daughters life. You have to respect it. Feel the same about our own Graziano! After you accept these things, life's so much better.

He is an odious *****. So probably, yes.

It's very simple. The average IQ of a football fan is far less than those of other sports. It turns out that thick people have more of a propensity to be sexist or racist. Simples.

My missus is 5 years younger, been at the company 3 years less, and is paid £10K less than her equivalent controller in another part of the company. Positive discrimination is alive and well. She puts it down to her boss being female.