Unbelievable Jeff

The point about the debates is that Milliband is already in such a bad position, why have a debate that could strengthen Labour's bid. They will never win a bid with UKIP so that's a very bad idea. If people want to see a head to head debate, there's a 30 minute one every Wednesday at midday. Don't know why you think Ed looks good there though, guess people always see things different ways though. Shame about David, he could have been the one to make me move further to the left...

What about fatist chants? You get more of them at football.

Didn't know Rod Stewart worked for the FA...

Hahahahahaha, yep, remember that. He then went on to say the majority of the goals he scored were mi****. That was golden.

Or option 3, hold the EU to ransom instead of leaving, and re-negotiate the deal to include caps on immigration.

Can you expand?

All those people that complain there's no job will have theirs back...

Libel!!

Sorry. Who's having any lewd thoughts about a 15 year old?

And if he has done wrong in the eyes of the law (which always takes these types of cases very seriously) then he will, don't you worry. However, they have to prove that he knew she was under age or had reason to believe she was under age, otherwise as far as he is concerned he is having consensual sex with an adult.

That's the photo I saw...But it doesn't look that much like her other photos. Either way, at least I can recognise that's she's of age. Bearsy on the other hand...

I thought you meant if we just shipped out all immigrants - not stopped the in/out. We would still allow immigrants but it would be a points based system, where we could still take in the people we need. It'd likely be the unskilled excess we'd remove.

Ministry of Defence?? I have to disagree, sorry. We're not posting the image, or the name, we are discussing a photo in a hypothetical way, we don't know if its real or not.

Yeah, not going to post it.

I don't think ANYONE disputes this. The trade unions have got a lot to answer for with supporting the wrong brother. David would be so far ahead now it's ridiculous.

Nothing, keep your head high. Nearly as good as my Latin...

Just seen the photo - I can't actually believe that's her - what's the chances? If it is then she does look 20. Honest question Bear, if you met her in a club, bearing in mind it's only a headshot, would you question whether she was of age?

Well, there will never be a situation where that just suddenly happens, luckily imho, as I think parts of the public sector would come to an absolute standstill.

We are talking hypothetically though Lou, surely we can put together a likely hypothesis of what may have happened, otherwise we'd never discuss anything until the case is complete.

Yep, because that's exactly what I said... If he met her in a club, and she looked in her 20's, then it is unlikely her age is in question to him (and rightly so), and the likelihood is she lied as she would have lied to get in there. Of course, we need to know more about the surrounding circumstances, but if he didn't know her age, she looked over 20 and was in a club then this will not go to court.

If that is so and they met out in a club or something like that, then I wouldn't expect any charges to be made.

I would be. It is horrific beyond all else.

I wish Lou would look up blue waffle...

Deano's 13 isn't he?

Hahahahahaha