Guided Missile

Don't get it.

 

How does this relate to the special relationship?

 

Are you suggesting that the US entered WW2 purely because it loved the UK so much?

I am saying that they obviously shared our values enough, to die for the freeedom you are exercising, spouting xenophobic rubbish.

I would call that a "special-relationship".

Personally, I'd be happier restricting the bandwidth you are currently inhabiting...

Personally, I've never believed that the term "special relationship" meant much to the Americans.

The Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial is a World War II cemetery and memorial in Colleville-sur-Mer, Normandy, France, that honors American soldiers who died in Europe during World War II.

The cemetery is located on a bluff overlooking Omaha Beach (one of the landing beaches of the Normandy Invasion) and the English Channel. It covers 70 ha (172 acres), and contains the remains of 9,387 American military dead, most of whom were killed during the invasion of Normandy and ensuing military operations in World War II. Included are graves of Army Air Corps crews shot down over France as early as 1942.

Only some of the soldiers who died overseas are buried in the overseas American military cemeteries. When it came time for a permanent burial, the next of kin eligible to make decisions were asked if they wanted their loved ones repatriated for permanent burial in the U.S., or interred at the closest overseas cemetery.

Keep the fans off the board, forever. Flask drinking, well meaning idiots.

This...

Rain stopped play, from where I'm sitting....

In the spirit of a previous poster:

UC AlbinoLeffe

(Italy)

Blooming

(Bolivia)

Burntisland Shipyard FC

(Scotland)

Civil Service Strollers

(Scotland)

Club Destroyers

(Bolivia)

Colonel Bolognesi

(Peru)

Deportivo Moron

(Argentina)

FC Englebert

(Congo)

FL Fart

(Norway)

Gala Fairydean

(Scotland)

Go Ahead Eagles

(Holland)

Golspie Sutherland

(Scotland)

Hallelujah FC

(South Korea)

FC Holy Paul

(Congo)

Inverurie Loco Works FC

(Scotland)

Joe Public FC

(Trinidad and Tobago)

Wigtown and Bladnoch

(Scotland)

Jorge Wilstermann

(Bolivia)

KFC Winterslag

(Belgium)

Mito Hollyhock

(Japan)

Old Boys Basel

(Switzerland)

Pele FC

(Guyana)

Prima Ham FC

(Japan)

Shooting Stars FC

(Nigeria)

Sint-Eloois Winkel Sport

(Belgium)

South Georgetown Ballweavers

(Guyana)

The Strongest

(Bolivia)

Total Clean Football Club

(Peru)

Wikki Tourists FC

(Nigeria)

Wormatia Worms

(Germany)

Young Boys

(Switzerland)

Young Fellows Juventus

(Switzerland)

Bloody Hell GM, you don't hold grudges do you? (that thread was from January 2009, over two and a half years ago)

 

(I do agree with you BTW)

Don't think I've forgotten about the comparative performance of our two companies, Johnny Big Bo££ox....

...and advice which that well known cheese eating, surrender monkey of a bank should have heeded. I'm talking about BNP Paribas, Jonah's employer. Yes, they're French, they're smelly and they couldn't help sniffing condesendingly in our direction, when it came to the state of our respective economies.

I was thinking of this thread that was an attempt to describe the actual strength of the UK economy, when compared to the shifty French and their shoulder shrugging approach to debt. In particular, over 2 years ago, Jonah posted, in reply to me:

This is a normal response for someone that has adopted the main characteristic of the French, namely an inflated sense of national pride, despite all evidence to the contrary.

On the subject of credit default swaps, I'm pretty sure that the German, French and UK government bonds are about as risk-free as any investment could be.

 

Now, if we talk about Irish, Greek, Portuguese, Spanish and Italian bonds, they are only slightly safer at the moment, than shares in Southampton Leisure plc. I'm sure your colleagues are watching those CDS's rise nearly as quick as unemployment rates in the City....(sorry about that one)

Well with Ireland, Greece, Portugal and Spain on credit watch they are unsurprisingly high. What will be interesting is to see if any of them get downgraded below A- rating by S&P (temporarily lowered to BBB-) which would exclude their sovereign debt from acceptance by the ECB (oh dear).

 

Meanwhile a good round of redundancies will do the City no harm, there is a lot of dross at the moment and these culls clear a lot of it out.

 

 

 

Ah well again I would disagree with you there, you cannot keep grouping the UK in with the less risky sovereigns. Markit shows the latest G7 spreads and the UK is twice as expensive to insure against as the US, Germany or France and three times as costly as Japan:

 

http://www.markit.com/information/news/commentary/cds.html

 

And we're deteriorating at the same pace as Italy which can never be a good sign. In fact, UK Ltd is considered more risky and therefore more expensive to insure against than corporates now...

Well, Jonah's own bank, BNP Paribas recently reported holding the most Greek debt of any of the French banks, about 5bn euros of sovereign debt and has set aside 534m euros to cover its Greek exposure.

My forecast? Watch a French banking crisis emerge over the next few weeks and whether Sarkozy and the French government can bail them out. 534m euros set aside for the Greek debt? Try 1.5b euros and you might be closer to the mark....

Of course, my opening post about Saints avoiding administration by paying off the £5M overdraft to Barclays was completely wrong, but I'm more of a broad brush, macro-economic kind of a guy.....

We took our usual seats for the Leeds game, noticing that the seat next to us was empty. An young chinese guy moved along to the seat, holding the seat ticket a camera and wearing a signed Saints shirt. He took about 20 photos before kick off, and we settled down to watch the game.

First goal and my son and I are jumping up and down, high fiving and shouting. The next goal and we are hugging each other, in between jumping up and down. We sit down for half time, as the chinese guy goes down to the pitchside for more photo opportunities. Second half and we watch the third goal, go in. I glance to my left and my son is hugging the Chinese guy and jumping up and down.

"What was that about, mate?" I asked my son, smiling.

"He was watching us hugging each other for the second goal, Dad and it looked like he wanted to join in, as he came on his own, so I thought I'd better give him a hug for the third goal."

I agree, as in being an arrogant c*nt isnt an illness either, so you dont need to visit your GP. However being obese isnt what I am talking about, Jonny boy.

 

But I am not going to satisfy the voyeur in you and reveal what the problem is.

At least let us speculate.

Com'on Alps, you know what they say. If you can't laugh at yourself, at least let me do it for you....

To be fair, I think calling obesity a fairly serious illness is stretching it...

Difficult to comment without knowing what actually went on in Tottenham, to be honest. The result if the IPCC inquiry will be interesting, though.

 

Just a thought, Section 27 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act is often used against groups of football fans who police believe may be intending to cause trouble - basically it gives them the power to remove them from an area, district or entire town/city for a period of time. Why the hell haven't they used this here?

I miss the old Riot Act, to be fair:

The Riot Act[1] (1714) (1 Geo.1 St.2 c.5) was an Act of the Parliament of Great Britain that authorised local authorities to declare any group of twelve or more people to be unlawfully assembled, and thus have to disperse or face punitive action. The Act, whose long title was "An act for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies, and for the more speedy and effectual punishing the rioters", came into force on 1 August 1715, and remained on the statute books until 1973.

Proclamation of riotous assembly

The act created a mechanism for certain local officials to make a proclamation ordering the dispersal of any group of more than twelve people who were "unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled together". If the group failed to disperse within one hour, then anyone remaining gathered was guilty of a felony without benefit of clergy, punishable by death.

The proclamation could be made in an incorporated town or city by the Mayor, Bailiff or "other head officer", or a Justice of the Peace. Elsewhere it could be made by a Justice of the Peace or the Sheriff or Under-Sheriff. It had to be read out to the gathering concerned, and had to follow precise wording detailed in the act; several convictions were overturned because parts of the proclamation had been omitted, in particular "God save the King".[2]

The wording that had to be read out to the assembled gathering was as follows:

 

Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the act made in the first year of King George, for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King!

 

Consequences of disregarding the proclamation

 

If a group of people failed to disperse within one hour of the proclamation, the act provided that the authorities could use force to disperse them. Anyone assisting with the dispersal was specifically indemnified against any legal consequences in the event of any of the crowd being injured or killed.

Unfortunately, these were replaced by the Public Order Act, 1986, which I think, provides enough power, if we had enough police on the streets, instead of paper shuffling behind a desk:

Public Order Act 1986

1 Riot..

(1)Where 12 or more persons who are present together use or threaten unlawful violence for a common purpose and the conduct of them (taken together) is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety, each of the persons using unlawful violence for the common purpose is guilty of riot..

(2)It is immaterial whether or not the 12 or more use or threaten unlawful violence simultaneously..

(3)The common purpose may be inferred from conduct..

(4)No person of reasonable firmness need actually be, or be likely to be, present at the scene..

(5)Riot may be committed in private as well as in public places..

(6)A person guilty of riot is liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or a fine or both....

The Met have now said the use of rubber/plastic bullets is "an option".

Pity they didn't think as carefully when they used real ones, that kicked the whole thing off. Am I the only one, post De Mendez, to think that arming the Met is akin to letting them play "Call of Duty", for real...

The best thing I ever did was leave the UK. As much as I miss it, it's not the same place anymore. A once great country is overrun by thugs, criminals and freeloaders.

These riots are the direct result of a generation, that has grown reliant on the benefits system that rewards dysfunctional families. The sense of entitlement without the responsibility to earn that right has been instilled in a large number of families, that have been housed and fed at taxpayers expense. The welfare state in broken and we will go through a lot of pain to fix it. I hope the government has the balls to continue with the difficult task, in the face of pressure from the unions and the criminals. (and I don't mean Ed Balls)

Has anyone noticed that the fee is about what Marcus paid for the club, stadium included...

Business Genius....

Some are 15 years old, others as young as 12. When will this nightmare end? Please do not click this link, if you are easily offended...

Cheers GM, was tryin to find the cached version...

You have mail...

One strange thing. I'd had the original web page open and this was the link I tried to copy you in to. When it wouldn't work, and I tried all the stuff I've mentioned above, I assumed the page was dead. However, a link on the page (to a comment about the article) worked. When I tabbed back, the original web page had gone!

 

Bizzarre!

You could always open the cached copy of the webpage. It looks like this:

Harry Redknapp, tax evasion and Mandaric’s ‘offshore account’

By Gavin Sheridan – August 3, 2011

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I recently obtained interesting documents from a Florida court which outline further details of the investigation into tax evasion by people formerly associated with Portsmouth Football Club.

The investigation is part of ‘Operation Apprentice’ a long standing investigation into alleged football corruption. In 2007, then Portsmouth chief executive Peter Storrie was arrested — along with then manager Harry Redknapp, then club owner Milan Mandaric (now owner of Sheffield Wednesday), agent Willie McKay and former Portsmouth player Amdy Faye — over allegations of corruption. The five men were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud and false accounting.

Last year Redknapp, who is the current manager at Tottenham, was charged with “two counts of cheating the public revenue of an estimated £40,000 after voluntarily attending London’s Bishopsgate police station”. Redknapp has been touted as a successor to Fabio Capello as England football manager. According to The Independent:

Charges concerned two payments, totalling 295,000 US dollars, alleged to have been made from Mandaric to Redknapp via a bank account in Monaco, evading the tax and National Insurance contributions due between April 1, 2002 and November 28, 2007.

Mandaric, now chairman of Leicester, was charged with tax evasion relating to the payment of 295,000 US dollars to another person via a Monaco bank account, evading tax and National Insurance.

Storrie was charged with concealing a signing-on fee for ex-Portsmouth player Amdy Faye by paying it into the midfielder’s bank account.

The allegation related to the transfer of Faye from Auxerre to Fratton Park for £1.5million in August 2003.

For his part, Redknapp sought to have the case against him dismissed in November last year.

Well, I tried to cut and paste - wouldn't work. So I tried to save the file - wouldn't save. And, as I said, I can't even get onto the front page now. Try using the information in my previous post, maybe you'll have more luck than me.

The original source for the documents was here. If you type mandaric in the search archive box, you can download the documents for $10.

I think if I was Sarkozy or Merkel, I would rather pay a little more in interest, rather than watching billions in German and French bank loans go down the tubes, or French and German public money being used to vainly propping up Italy and Spain to try and save the euro.

It will happen, mark my words....

Just a thought, but why don't the Eurozone countries stop issuing their own bonds for the raising of capital? Replace them with a Eurobond that will provide a yield lower than the PIIGS are having to pay at the moment. Yeah, it will add to the cost of borrowing in France and Germany, but the European Bank will then have the capital and say so to whom, how much and under what terms the money is doled out.

HELP!

 

can someone point me in the right direction? I have tried googleing the court numbers but cant find anything.

 

Some forums reckon arrys got 13 weeks of bird!

 

Any help would be most appreciated. I am more than happy to send this viral...

Search my post carefully, for a link.

Sorry guys, can't have that link on here, we'd be in contempt of court.

It would be a shame if our loyal readers missed thestory.ie we wouldn't be able to have a laugh at Pompey....

Pebble Beach and Carmel are also beautiful places. I'm jealous.

We're spending 6 days in Monterey and while the missus is sun bathing I will play Pebble Beach and Spyglass. Looking forward to 17 mile drive, Big Sur and Carmel. Stopping over one night in Sacramento on the way to South Lake Tahoe, where we will be staying for a couple days. Definitely will be taking a trip to Carson City.

Despite travelling to most of the US, during the 11 years I lived there, I never got the West Coast, only getting as far as Pheonix. The decision to move to the States, when I was younger, was largely influenced by being a big fan of the Rockford files. I even bought a Pontiac Firebird. Little did I know that the Jersey shore was nothing like Malibu!

Just to make you feel worse, this is where we intend to have brunch, the Sunday we are in Monterey.

from looking through your mainly irrelevant link, the uk comes out as a midtable team in the european set-up

 

it seems to be all based on opinions - a wishy washy european qualitative style study. the sort of thing you'd probably be dead against if it promoting a socialist result.

 

peoples attitudes change, for example the germans may have very high standards and are more likely to express disatisfaction when in fact their rail network is far superior to ours.

 

I am more interested in factual quantitative studies within the uk showing real changes in costs for passengers and times of journies, over the last 40 years or so. this would give a far better picture than asking some lithuanians who travel by rail twice a year if the toilets at their local station were clean.

I'd spend some time debating the points you've made, but you're obviously totally illiterate and a waste of a post....