SaintDonkey Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Jan seems to be a top bloke and I wish him well in whatever he does next. However I think we need a change. We'd probably have to pay compensation to Poortvliet, Wotte (and Gorey?) which would leave us even more cash strapped than we are already. Possibly so cash strapped that even bringing in a free agent like Dowie or Adams would require some sacrifice on the player front, and if we were to poach a manager from someone else we would definitely have to sell someone. So my question is this. Who would you sacrifice from the playing squad in order to fund a change of manager? We don't really have that many salable assets so to change manager we'd probably have to sell one or more of Davis, Lallana, Surman, Skacel or Saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Jan seems to be a top bloke and I wish him well in whatever he does next. However I think we need a change. We'd probably have to pay compensation to Poortvliet, Wotte (and Gorey?) which would leave us even more cash strapped than we are already. Possibly so cash strapped that even bringing in a free agent like Dowie or Adams would require some sacrifice on the player front, and if we were to poach a manager from someone else we would definitely have to sell someone. So my question is this. Who would you sacrifice from the playing squad in order to fund a change of manager? We don't really have that many salable assets so to change manager we'd probably have to sell one or more of Davis, Lallana, Surman, Skacel or Saga. no one get Rupert to pay it out of his redundancy money from 2 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Gasmi, Pulis, Smith, JE, BWP, Having off loaded this lot, should cover a new Manager/Coach. Get rid of Lowey, Jones and all the Dutch Coaching staff, would help save money. We know that JP will pay his own comp like he did at Helmond....REALLY. Having closed the corners, we can close the straight bits to save some more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 no one get Rupert to pay it out of his redundancy money from 2 years ago Was it something like £500,000 compo that Lowe and Cowen took? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mprobert Posted 3 January, 2009 Share Posted 3 January, 2009 Jan seems to be a top bloke and I wish him well in whatever he does next. However I think we need a change Jan will be gutted - has he passed a view on how well you are doing with your job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 4 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Jan will be gutted - has he passed a view on how well you are doing with your job? Oddly enough no. Of course if I don't do my job to the required standard all that happens is I lose my job, nobody gets relegated, nobody goes into administration, no players have to be sold and nobody has to work out how to get to Carisle for a mideweek match in February. Nobody is going to want to pay money for Pulis or Gasmi. There might possibly be takers for JE or BWP but they aren't going to fund a new manager (plus they've been among our better players this season, I know that's not saying much). Lowe isn't going to reach into his own pockets so I ask again. For all those who believe that Jan has had his time who do we sell to fund a replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 4 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2009 When Jan does step down he will probably look after the academy and Henderson will take charge. That would be a good option - the Jan stepping down to the academy bit rather than Henderson taking charge. That way no compensation to be paid and maybe we could afford someone like Adams? We'd still probably be talking about shedding a player to fund it but it could be a Euell rather than a Skacel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 If Poortvliet goes the only person who will replace him would be Wotte. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Jan seems to be a top bloke and I wish him well in whatever he does next. However I think we need a change. We'd probably have to pay compensation to Poortvliet, Wotte (and Gorey?) which would leave us even more cash strapped than we are already. Possibly so cash strapped that even bringing in a free agent like Dowie or Adams would require some sacrifice on the player front, and if we were to poach a manager from someone else we would definitely have to sell someone. So my question is this. Who would you sacrifice from the playing squad in order to fund a change of manager? We don't really have that many salable assets so to change manager we'd probably have to sell one or more of Davis, Lallana, Surman, Skacel or Saga. as i said on another thread,there are currently 90 managers out of work so no need to pay compensation to another club. changing a manager is the easy part,giving that new manager the money to do his job will be the hard part...........for us anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Clarridge tearing into Lowe and Jan on 5live good stuff. One good thing that will come out of today is more pressure on Lowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 We couldn't fund a change of underwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 After everything Holloway said today, I would take him tomorrow. He saw all our problems from the off and was spot on in his assessment - no shape, no organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 After everything Holloway said today, I would take him tomorrow. He saw all our problems from the off and was spot on in his assessment - no shape, no organisation. But plenty of people on this forum say the same thing! That doesn't make them a wise choice of manager. Holloway has achieved nothing that merits his appointment IMO. I'd even have taken that gob****e Billy Davies over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 But plenty of people on this forum say the same thing! That doesn't make them a wise choice of manager. Holloway has achieved nothing that merits his appointment IMO. I'd even have taken that gob****e Billy Davies over him. So would I. I was merely pointing out that Holloway would do a better job than the incumbent. As to what he achieved, asked Dell Days why Plymouth are where they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Holloway has achieved nothing that merits his appointment IMO. And Jan did??? I'm no massive fan of Holloway or Davies, but I can't help but think that there would be many out there who would be a better bet than Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 And Jan did??? I'm no massive fan of Holloway or Davies, but I can't help but think that there would be many out there who would be a better bet than Jan. Including both of those you're no fan of!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 But plenty of people on this forum say the same thing! That doesn't make them a wise choice of manager. Holloway has achieved nothing that merits his appointment IMO. I'd even have taken that gob****e Billy Davies over him. Bizarre how serial non-achievers Claridge and Holloway can be considered fonts of knowledge to sit in judgement.* I'd prefer Cotterill to either of those two.Or even Dowie who has ballsed up at his last two clubs.Adams,I thought was at Brighton. *even if they are correct on this issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Bizarre how serial non-achievers Claridge and Holloway can be considered fonts of knowledge to sit in judgement.* I'd prefer Cotterill to either of those two.Or even Dowie who has ballsed up at his last two clubs.Adams,I thought was at Brighton. *even if they are correct on this issue as to hollaway lawrie mac said the same things earlier in the day is he a serial non-achiever then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 So my question is this. Who would you sacrifice from the playing squad in order to fund a change of manager? We don't really have that many salable assets so to change manager we'd probably have to sell one or more of Davis, Lallana, Surman, Skacel or Saga. Any... just get rid of the clueless cloggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 as to hollaway lawrie mac said the same things earlier in the day is he a serial non-achiever then? You can judge Lawrie entirely on his own record. Not everyone who holds that view of our club will be a 'serial non-achiever' because of their view,its just that both Claridge and Holloway are (IMO)in that category. My point was more to do with them passing judgement as if it were gospel in the media,(and people lapping it up as it suits a purpose).I've also added,that they are right on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 No one ... how about we all put in a couple of quid at the next home game should pay off his contract. After all he is the cheap option right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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