Away games under Eckert

[Mboto Gorge]

QPR (2-1) - performance - average/poor

 Charlton (5-1) - performance - excellent

Millwall (2-3) - performance - poor

Norwich (1-2) - performance - poor/ dreadful 

Oxford (1-2) - performance- dreadful 

 

3 away defeats on the bounce and 4 poor performances out of his 5 away games to date. Worrying . None of these are against really top sides either: since Millwall beat us they’ve lost at home to hull and drawn at home to Ipswich. Starting to look like he hasn’t got a clue how to set up away from home at all, against anyone 

[Fabrice29]

Where’s the away games under Martin, Juric, Rusk, Still threads?

[Mboto Gorge]

Not sure but they’re not the manager now so they’re pretty irrelevant aren’t they? So why would anyone bother posting that. Focus on the present. What a bizarre response but no surprise when I see who’s posted it. 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

It's pretty obvious that we find it hard to break teams down when they sit back against us. Add a proper striker and a goalkeeper to that game and we probably would have won

[Fabrice29]

31 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Not sure but they’re not the manager now so they’re pretty irrelevant aren’t they? So why would anyone bother posting that. Focus on the present. What a bizarre response but no surprise when I see who’s posted it. 

Well I’m just wondering if TE is the issue or if your point of away form precedes him? 

[Mboto Gorge]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Well I’m just wondering if TE is the issue or if your point of away form precedes him? 

The only prior manager we could compare him to is Russell Martin, being he was the only other manager managing at the same level, ie the championship. Russell Martin didn’t ever lose 3 away games in a row in the league. The other managers managed at premier league level, so we could use those stats, but they’d not be comparing like with like as the premier league is a whole level up, and  as we didn’t have a squad worth comfortably more than 95% of the teams in the premier league, so it isn’t a valid comparison.  But then of course you knew that. Any more queries I’ll be happy to clear them up for you Jordan

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[Fabrice29]

6 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

The only prior manager we could compare him to is Russell Martin, being he was the only other manager managing at the same level, ie the championship. Russell Martin didn’t ever lose 3 away games in a row in the league. The other managers managed at premier league level, so we could use those stats, but they’d not be comparing like with like as the premier league is a whole level up, and  as we didn’t have a squad worth comfortably more than 95% of the teams in the premier league, so it isn’t a valid comparison.  But then of course you knew that. Any more queries I’ll be happy to clear them up for you Jordan

Welcome aboard my Russell Martin actually did a good job for us at this level train. Ignore the haters on the outside, we’ll gather who we can along the slow and bumpy journey, I promise you.

Probably could have a look at the form under the other manager we’ve had this season and see if there’s any major similarities like for example the squad? But just a thought.

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[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Well I’m just wondering if TE is the issue or if your point of away form precedes him? 

So, away form is someone else's fault, but he gets the credit for home form - that's how it works isn't it?

[Mboto Gorge]

2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Welcome aboard my Russell Martin actually did a good job for us at this level train. Ignore the haters on the outside, we’ll gather who we can along the slow and bumpy journey, I promise you.

Yeah he did, I’ve never actually said otherwise personally. I’d take that every day of the week over what’s Happening this season , and I’d hope anyone else would too given we had about 12 more points at this stage 

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So, away form is someone else's fault, but he gets the credit for home form - that's how it works isn't it?

How it works in my mind is how it’s always worked. The results aren’t solely a verdict of how good a manager is and other factors like the players are a much bigger factor. Wins or losses. And a club/fanbase which has gone through the amount we have this year probably should know that by now. 

[die Mannyschaft]

The 2 I went to couldn't be more contrasting Charlton and Millwall.  Admit Charlton were almost a leaque 1 side so that was an easy win but we executed the win very well. Millwall I thought we got completely out played even if scoreline looked close. Millwall missed 5 or 6 sitters. The subs completely ruin any game plan and is panic sit back mode. No one takes risks going forward and that's the issue we don't have a team, all 18 who are able to play front foot football. The 11 on the pitch varies so much its not a working unit from say 35 mins 1st sub, to 48 mins 2nd to 80 mins 3rd. 4th sub or any sub combination. 

We are totally reliant on Scienza, Fellows and a few others that football can only be played to how manger wants in best 11. Even with Ross out we lacking up front. 

Millwall added time we could of gone all attack but had subs that meant couldn't do that, making 10 passes instead of crossing ball in danger area.

Saints cant play the basics of football as keep changing players resulting in strange indecisive football.