Chez

I feel your pain about losing talent. With Shields in place we paid massive sums, when he departed that chaged. However, we haven't let Dibling go. So not "every single talent has gone". SAA is also still here. And Ballard. Wish we still had Rodriguez. We didn't let JJM go for peanuts by the way. It's worth saying that the "going rate" that Chelsea pay far exceeds what almost everyone else pays. Thats why we couldn't keep him. Not to mention the fact they have the best youth system and players, so another draw for ambitious players.

Les hasn't played loads I guess, but I think Juric has just made a mistake not starting him. Whether it makes a difference I am not sure. He will start in the next game that's for sure.

cheers. They are doing all these after every game?

I think that is fair. It's Downes natural game and he needs to adjust. I hope he can. Aribo, Fernandes and Les seem to be more aligned with what Juric is after.

when we are passing it to central midfielders that then pass straight back to CBs or are passing between CBs, opponents go all in with the press and we are in trouble. We haven't done it a lot recently, with Les, Aribo and Fernandes always looking to be on the half turn, but whenever we do, we look terrible.

Sulemena looked very tired at end of united game, so I can live with that decision, but Les wasn't out on his feet and hasn't had injuries, so what about him? How does a sports science actually evaluate the health of player. I hear lots of mentions of red line or red flags or whatever, but how do you actually test (what is the test) to get a red flag that suggests they might pull a muscle if they are played again?

Not sure that's true. We deserved a point or more on Thursday, but by and large we were poor today. A late rally helped by a load injuries to their better players was good to see, but we got what we deserved overall.

He was clattering into Forest players in the first half yet you are saying his heart is not in it? I wouldn't pick him right now too, but that's because he is not playing well and is doing the wrong things - not because he isn't trying or is up for the fight.

Does it really take a young proper athlete like him 3 days to recover from 83 minutes of a Prem game?

Not really seen him until the last two games in which he was poor. He's lightweight, keeps falling over and playing for fouls and technically not quite good enough. His touch keeps letting him down. I don't know if that's the real him, but if it is, we have not replaced KWP. Perhaps he needs more time to settle. He does get forward quite well and puts a good cross in, bit you can't lose the ball in dangerous areas like he does and get away with it in the Prem.

OK, but Les didn't play the full game on Thursday and could have been subbed today. Sulemana could also have been subbed off. The game was over before they got on the pitch.

No one is buying him, so it matters not.

KWP played again and he did a lot of running. Fernandes too. Don't understand that decision.

Yep. A quick player transfer, got JWP on and boom.

Why on earth did Juric not start with Les and Sulemana?

that a foul ref you cunt...

great effort chasing back by Sulemana.

Les is on it. He looks a decent player to me. No idea what went wrong under RM, but he's been good in recent games.

If you say so. We've been missing a scapegoat.

Les on, some of their best players off. Simple.

Smallbone comes on and we almost immediately back in it. Coincidence? COYR

Was Smallbone that bad?

You know, when we are crap for periods, its not just because players dont give a toss, it can just be because we aint any good, have lost confidence and not playing well.

Why is Aribo wrapping his arms around the keeper on that corner. Other players back in and make it hard. He just made it easy for ref. Our set pieces need to improve.

Les has done Ok since coming on. Shown some strength that was much missed.