Fitzhugh Fella

So you can't answer my question?

**** knows, I guess I would at least know who I was talking to?

Good point re gates. But why did MP replace AL with a rookie with 10mins to go? That to me said it all Ron.

I agree SC, but no one wants to be owned by someone who is half-hearted or can't make up their mind?

And you get your evidence from where? Seriously I am interested.

Again you make a fair point and maybe it is the wider picture I should be criticising. But apologies, this is a Saints forum and I was trying to keep it on topic after yesterday, but I agree the malaise is not a local one.

You are frit. Go on e mail me, let's talk this through with both of us knowing who we are talking to- or do you want to keep hiding? Genuine question. You views are **** without a name behind them

Maybe you should do the same? But hold on you are anonymous so what would be the point? I bet that really ****s you off. You want attention but you can't get it because... hold on you are too frightened. How about you say it to my face Duncan@duncanholley.co.uk

Yea I guess it all started when Lowe helped us get on to the stock exchange. But in fairness to him he was only doing what had to be done. That was the day the "music died".

Ok let's see what happens this summer, but don't hold your breath. Someone in a very high up official position at SMS is forecasting we will be sold

Good point but you are now equating SFC with businesses in the City. Actually I think you are right which is where I came in on the original post. We are not a football team we are a business who has a football team.

Saint Charlie, I truly rate MP and want to see him get a new contract but I will be very surprised if he is still here a year from now. Why do I think that? Because this club is run now as a business.

Yea that's what I thought but it is still a bit strange that he played 90 mins on the Friday night when he could have gone to the NE. But I accept there could have been a reason. Again if there was why not tell us? Surely this sort of info is not off limits? We have become so subservient to the club's decision on what is right for us to know.

Including you

Sensible response - thank you for talking like a real fan. But this weekend (and this is why I started this thread) for the first time I found myself asking "actually what is the point"? And then I realised there is none because no one of any importance at the club really cares. The guys who run the media section like Jordan Sibley and Simon Williams care but the people they answer to don't. Since we have had a temporary CEO we have heard nothing, but there again my point is "why should we think we are entitled to hear anything in the first place".

Good question - let me try and explain Lowe had to be accountable. It would be nice to think our owners had affinity. Dunno if that helps but I sort of get it

So why did Pochettino replace Lallana (always a goal threat) with McQueen with 10 mins to go when there was only one goal in it. And why was Gallagher played on the Friday night in a U21 game when he could more usefully be employed at the SoL? Sorry mate - I think us fans are being played like pawns and we all argue on here like our future depends on it but the reality is - no one is really listening and they never will

Yea I was no fan of Lowe but - and this is important - even he had to face an AGM and a bank manager, the latter of which pulled the plug. You get my drift - our future is completely at the beck and call of someone who has no affinity. And that is not knocking her.

Yea I appreciate that. I am not advocating fan on the board or anything like that. What I am saying is the past has gone. There is no point us all getting our knickers in a twist and moaning about managers, players etc because no one has to listen.

Why don't you concentrate on what I have posted rather than me. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of anonymous posts.

I did say the Le Tiss consortium was flawed. But I disagree Vectis, there was a time when the fans opinion counted. Remember the sacking of Branfoot? That was totally because of the fans when voting with their feet scared the **** out of the board. In other words gate receipts ruled the day.

So you going to Upton Park CB? .... or just content to be an anonymous wag behind a screen keeping us all in stitches?

Disagree - before Marcus Liebherr bought the club Turkish, the people who ran it were accountable. Ok not to the fans wholly, the shareholders were the gods, but some of them were fans and that is why Lowe finally faltered. I think the Liebherr family have been good owners, no great owners but the truth remains, as fans we no longer have any influence. Cortese could not give a **** about us and I doubt Katharina is losing too much sleep over yesterday's events.

This is going to be a slightly controversial post, but imo since the Liebherr family took over, the club stopped being run "for the fans". Instead it is run for the good of the "business". Normally the two go hand in hand but occasionally, there are times, like yesterday when there is a conflict of interest or a diversity of ambition. The events at the Stadium of Light have most probably thrown up the most discord on this forum since a Cortese inspired Liebherr bandwagon trampled the flawed Le Tissier dream ticket consortium into oblivion and swept into town to take over. Gawd we were all so grateful. Me included. I said at the time it is great to be rescued and to have real money at our fingertips (and what a five years we have had), but gone forever are the days where the fans priorities and dreams are a priority. Even Lowe had to keep one eye on keeping the fans happy. No one in charge at SMS really genuinely cares about our stripes, our traditions or our history. It remains a money making machine that will be sold or kept according to market forces. The fans dreams and hopes are mere side issues. We are supporting a company who happen to be based in our city and there is no going back. So who is going to Upton Park?

Come again?