saint michael

That’s so it can be bought for Christmas presents

This seems to have turned into the JWP transfer page. Maybe have a vote. Not for me. Think we should move on. Not a great believer in going back, seems to rarely turn out well. Think Ralph got a tune out of him but all the other managers seems to have struggled to fit him into their teams. it’s a no from me.

JWP will fit right in if we are to play sideways and backwards football with the occasional free kick outside the box. Great servant in his time but would be a backwards step for us.

Yeah I think Moyes has also had problems with him up there. Mentioned that he needs to train better and work harder. Even signed that Chelsea player on loan in January and played him ahead of Dibling. Obviously has ability but not great head with it. When I watched him also had stopped trying to run it and take players on and preferred the low risk backward pass back

It feels a bit disloyal after looking after him for years when not playing but I don’t think he’s as good a player as he thinks he is. We will soon find out

Rest in peace Shep. Condolences to family and friends.

Is that a disclosure 😂

If he is in goal we will be under siege

Yes very interesting read. Suggests that evidence was not used to spell out in the judgement for it reasons for the punishment. also suggests that the public nature of the sub jud gave an unfair view and possible bias to the outcome.

It is really a difficult one because it’s emotional with the cheating language being used. As a lot have stated rules are broken every match played and the right punishment is issued…usually ie yellow and red card, leading to bans. The consequence of these rules being broken we’re not clearly spelt out and we’re then applied to be very very punative. That is now done. Clearly Tonda is not the only manager who can manage a team to success but the fact he has done exceptionally well makes it difficult to accept the loss, because we haven’t seen this success for a long time. The additional bit is the complete lack of trust in the ownership and board to then replace him with the manager capable of creating success, so better to keep the devil you know? i think whether we would accept Tonda staying is immaterial as I’m sure the players wouldn’t. I’m sure their pain of being denied possible promotion and all that goes with it will make it impossible for him to stay anyway. it then makes it really hard to decide who could replace him and who we would want and trust. There in lies the issue for me. Tonda goes but who replaces…..

Forgive if already been posted but there is a very good article in the Times today on him and about spying on teams and a bit more about who he is and his background. As Crab lungs says it will be useful to hear him before he is hung out to dry. Not saying it changes views but may help with the emotional bit of the effect of what he has done. I cant post the article as was shared by a friend and supporter of another club who is seething by the way the saints have been treated.

I would think what the fab says is the least of their problems. Turkeys voting for Christmas moment, would be like for the board. Not sure holding a fans forum is a great idea if they are still dealing with legal stuff, but laying out timeline and what they are doing to make things clearer would be helpful.

Exactly. I think it’s ridiculous too. Use data by all means but if he couldn’t work out what they would do with or without says more about him.

Hackney not play was an advantage but planning for him playing or not playing should have been standard stuff and available from previous games they played with and without. Didn’t need spying to confirm this

Very good read and analysis. You should add in a bit about Seles too and then send this to Solak for response. I bet he has never looked at or considered the holistic position of his ownership beyond the financial.