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Both! C'mon lads. Stop the b1tching.

Now we're starting to sound a bit more threatening

Rickie Lambert to head us 1-0 I reckon from the corner.....

Rickie Lambert to head us 1-0 I reckon from the corner I reckon...

Rickie Lambert to head us 1-0 I reckon from the corner...

Or not...

Rayburn needs to cool down...

Mellis is sounding good. Probably because he's up against his fellow Chelsea team mate.

lol - our bench is stronger than our outfield!

We're weathering the early home pressure...lulling them into a false sense of security!

Kevin Hurst is very dangerous. Will have to keep him well marshalled this aft...

I first went to Gib in 1979 onboard HMS Bulwark (the old commando/aircraft carrier) and last time was in 1988 on the Type 42 destroyer HMS Cardiff. In between years - a total of 14 visits to the 'Rock'. Heaven knows it's probably changed beyond belief nowadays. Other than my home port of Pompey - Gib was like a home-from-home as I always seemed to be there for some reason or other. Fond memories mostly. There's no way I can help the OP as regards bars/pubs/clubs as it would have changed beyond recognition now. Remember Both Worlds, Main Street (lots of bars off there), the Casino on the side of the rock, rickety old cable car up to the apes, many many different bars all over the place. When you were on a carrier with a crew of 1,000 - trouble was never far away with jolly jack tar getting pizzed & fighting in every other bar! Always liked Gib though - great place to let off steam.

Knowing you TDD - probably of Charles and 'The Hole in the Wall' !

On the subject of footy betting... I've been playing the SkySports 'Super 6' for the last couple of weeks on a saturday. It's free to do - you just got to sign up. You have to predict the exact scores from Sky's 6 chosen matches that week (easier said than done of course!) - but it is free after all & the top prize is £100,000 - so not to be scoffed at. There is £5,000 each week for anyone predicting the most correct scores too. This week (for example) - two punters correctly forecast 4 correct scores & shared £2,500 each. The link is below for anyone interested. Good luck! http://super6.skysports.com/

lol - people will actually watch that and - more worryingly - some will even believe that demolition charges were indeed set!!!!! ffs...

3 months more like! After that - you're on your own.

But in a number of substantial national polls/surveys over the last few years - when the ordinary British man/woman in the street was asked what concerns them most about living in modern-day Britain today; employment/job security' housing, the NHS, etc - immigration (especially illegal immigration) featured high up on their list. After all - shouldn't we know the name of every single person living in the UK today? As for the work-shy dossers; a good honest hard-working mate of mine has a 22-year old son who's one of the laziest little basturds you'll ever come across. I think he's actually worked about 3 weeks in just as many years! It drives my mate mad. Anyway - he said to me recently: "Can you believe this government actually pay him money every week - just to stay in bed 'til one o'clock in the afternoon?" And therein lays the problem...

Yeah yeah yeah Verbal - trust you to highlight the obscure & the isolated "nutjob" examples. If I'd have been living in Hungerford in 1987 - Michael Ryan might have gunned me down in the streets. If I was gay (which I'm not by the way - honest!) - the 'Nail bomber' might have killed me in a Soho pub bombing had I been there - the wrong place at the wrong time. An Argentinian bomb from a French Super Etendard or an A-4 Skyhawk never had my name on it in 1982 either - but others there weren't so lucky. Ifs. Buts. Maybe's. The fact still remains that - isolated nutjobs apart - I'm more likely to lose my life in this day & age thanks to a muslim extremist bomber. I spent a weekend in London the other week as it happens at the Landmark Hotel, Marylebone. I had to take taxi cabs all weekend because the missus point blank refuses to take the tube anymore - ever since the London bombings. Now - I like to think I'm a fairly educated bloke - someone who's lived in Australia for 3 years, spent another 12 years in Her Majesty's Forces, spent weeks in Karachi Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, survived the Falklands war, spent a year of my life in the Middle East during the Iran-Iraq war, and was in Mogadishu, Somalia just before the 'Black Hawk Down' incident & shortly before the place fell into rebel hands. Infact - we were the last British warship to visit Somalia before war broke out there. I've even got my poxy South Atlantic medal that I gave to mum to keep as she was more proud of her 'little soldier' than I ever was. My dad spent 26 years as a submariner in the Royal Navy and I followed in his footsteps. I'm not rascist in the slightest. Never have been & never will be. And I'm switched-on enough to know that yes - there are problems in the UK today with both muslim extremists & white neo-Nazis - as well as political parties trying to stir things up & the odd nutjob solo activist. In the same breath - I'm also switched-on enough to know that the only real danger to me & my family - however small - comes from muslim extremists - whichever way you try to dress it up. I don't honestly know what the solution is to be fair. Dialogue I guess - and perhaps a change of foreign policy sometime in the future. Look - Verbal - of course I know that it is only a small, miniscule band of muslim fanatics trying to blow me up - but the fact remains I'm not worrying about any other segment of British society today other than them!

You said: "They might attract a slightly more sympathetic hearing if they just simply removed the word 'Islamic' from the bit I've highlighted." What other terrorists are we to fear in the UK today then other than a small number of muslim extremists? You can say the words "muslim extremists" you know without being labelled rascist.

Well I'm not in any danger of being bombed or blown apart by the IRA anymore - neither am I concerned about being the target of Poles, sikhs, The Welsh or Scots, the French, Italians or the Russians. The only danger I face is from a very small minority of muslim extremists. The EDL, you & me know this too if you're honest with yourself - which brings us back to aintforever's post.

??? How many splinters you got in your arse?

For years & years & years - radical muslim extremists (like Abu Hamza & a dozens of others like him) stood on the streets of London & other cities spouting hatred & abuse against Britain & British foreign policy. No-one - least of all this gutless excuse of a Government - did anything about it. Many mosques around the UK had/have extremist nutters doing their utmost to radicalise young asians into blowing-up the tubes & London buses - and no-one did feck all about it - least of all this clueless inept Government & let alone other decent-living asians listening to these so-called preachers. Soldiers returning from Afghanistan are greeted to a tirade of abuse & obscene placards from a group of nutters on the streets in Luton. No-one - least of all this pathetic Government did anything about it. The police just stood there looking totally stupid - completely overwhelmed - and ended up arresting one person - a white 18-year old local lad who had the guts to shout obsceneties back at the demonstrators - and rightfully so. Now the way I see it - many ordinary everyday folk have had enough. The Government don't appear to want to pass laws on the matter & simply turn a blind eye. It's no wonder then that the EDL are growing fast & political parties such as the BNP are winning votes left, right & centre. Many, many good ordinary everyday folk have had enough. So what's the answer Verbal? Dialogue? New laws? A change of Government foreign policy? You appear to have all the answers. What's the solution?

I fully expect around the 20,000 mark tomorrow - a lot of them hoping to see Papa make his home debut at some point.

That's far too sensible for this forum warwick. When I returned home from the Falklands in '82 - there weren't any protesting Argentinians on the quayside. If there had have been - I've no doubt whatsoever most (if not all of us) would have given them a good slap & thrown them over the dockside in the sea. How times change.

Fark being in a trench alongside Bearsy & Pancake eh...