AlexLaw76

Changes to a back 4, look half decent shocker

Silver lining, any sell on fee with have for Fernandes will sort out The EFL fine 😉

West Ham - 3 at the back and fucking shit

The reported points, -6. I get it, but even that seems a tad high (if they go with that). We all know about Leicester and that was off the charts

I assume Boro players will be in first thing preparing for the Final ? Or was that more guff from their side?

Why'd you do that? FFS

I guess we are all Hammers this afternoon?

And that ties in with the hissy-fit statement from Boro the other night

Just as well we were completely unable to control the game from the off, let alone win. Imagine had we dominated and won 3-0. we would be fucked 🤐

Does there need to be a precedent? They could set a precedent, given this is a knockout competition, by throwing us out.

It is articles like this that I sway back to us not being in the Final (whether Boro are not I do not know). As for appeal, if we are guilty of cheating and gaining some sporting advantage (I know the last part if harder to prove), then an appeal may be a PR exercise if anything. Guess we will likely know in the next 24 hours.

Not a chance, unless this is all one big hoax (which it clearly is not)

Cheating Bastards, yeah

Yes, which are 2 different things. It ensure the precedent sets is not straight out expulsion from a competition. It is just one person giving their opinion with not a lot of info to play with

Nope, just more pundits saying Tonda/Saints should be banned.

On another point, given that spurious voice recording Friday and the shift in the papers that we face a -6 points penalty with a huge fine, maybe this was set out and both sides have a few days to contest it (which led Boro go full mental with their statement)

Does it?

On another note, albeit years ago. Boro go what was it -3 for 'breaking the rules' when they did not bother turning up for a fixture?

true, and sure we would go all-in on this point. Full on expulsion from a competition, no matter how short it is, is just OTT.

Hopefully, sporting advantaged and the desire to 'cheat' can be separated from those scenarios.

The sanction(s) we faced are to meet the following criteria... I think (again) we are toast, or at least we are if The EFL get their way entirely. Derby v EFL (SR/017/2020) (Derby), an EFL disciplinary commission set out four purposes a sanction must serve: Punishment of the club for the breach Vindication for other clubs not engaged in conduct that breached the rules Deterrence from future rule breaches, whether by the breaching club or other clubs Restoration and preservation of public confidence in the fairness of EFL competitions.

Some legal bod on the Boro forum giving his opinion and interpretation of what is known (not the noise) believes we will not be expelled but there is risk for Saints of the first game being awarded 3-0 to Boro, as there is precedent between Celtic and Legia Warsaw which resulted in the same thing, plus a nod to the Swindon situation.

Just had a quick look on the Boro forum, seems they are doing the same here 🤣 For those from Boro reading this, surely we can agree that the Ref (at St Marys) was f-ing shite. You should have had at least 1, possibly 2 penalties, and Saints should have had a least 1 (shirt pull on Stewart). Who knows how the game would have gone had any of them been given. The ref was tragic as he did not have VAR to bail him out. On another note, -6 points is a huge, given Leicester got that for knowingly gained a sporting advantage for well over an entire season (and some), and also did everything they could to fiddle the process in being inspected. As for the sanctions, The EFL have a a range to use, which does leave it to the imagination a bit. Clearly you want us thrown out and Tonda to burn in Hell. We clearly don't want us thrown out and intrigued to know the extent (or not) this took place and who, if anyone, was involved.

If Tonda gets expelled...here he comes