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Also in the Guardian: David Squires NJ cartoon:- https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2023/feb/14/david-squires-on-nathan-jones-southampton-pep-guardiola-manchester-city

I was disappointed when Strachan arrived, having just taken Coventry down. But he did really well for us. Taking a step back showed he'd also had really good spells with Coventry too. It didn't take long to see improvements in fitness and approach with us. There are any number of factors involved when things go poorly, not least of which are personnel changes/ transfer policies, injuries, unrealistic expectations etc. Marsch may have failed in that he got sacked twice. He may not have hit the heights either board was looking for. Posts above outline a lot of reasons for this, alongside decent concerns. But he he's done plenty of good things in his career and hits a lot of the things we're probably looking for in a manager. There's no suggestion he carries the baggage NJ did even when things were going well for him at Luton. Overall, yes there are some risks there, but it's not a deal breaker just on that alone.

Exam

Agreed. Both the BBC and TalkSport have had programmes covering European and World football for years. Gallardo's name and progress have come up regularly, particularly from South American correspondent Tim Vickery.

Lower league management is trickier, which is why NJ could say he was the best in Europe at Luton. 🙂

Amendment

Finally, my voice will be heard...hey, wait a minute...! 🙂

I think Leedshampton lost a cup final to Melchester Rovers in one of the old annuals. 🙂

It's that kind of embracing the inner child, progressive approach that makes Potter such a sought after coach. 🙂

Marsch does have a bit of that Adkins positivity vibe about him. So, we can enjoy that while keeping Nige's legacy with us intact. When there are tough decisions to be made, and doubt creeps in, I know I'm not alone in saying "What would Nige do?" 🙂

In the credit column, Marsch is a successor to Ralph at Leipzig, having worked his way through the various Red Bull clubs. The sort of model / project SR are really keen to emulate. He's worked with top coaches in that environment along the way. He has won trophies and awards as a manager, and international caps as a player. He's assisted at World Cup level. He's very much the man for a project, although projects are short term, results driven and coaches rarely have a tenure lasting to see much of one through. But he fits SR's model very well here, and is group focused. The debits are that his Leipzig tenure wasn't anywhere near as successful as Ralph's. Like all tactics, there's a worry that his was picked open and couldn't adapt just as Ralph found. Sometimes, the overly complex tactics are the hardest to change, both in game and across a season. He was replacing a very successful coach. The narrow style he adopted, and maintained at Leeds, didn't work with what had gone before, particularly RB's wingbacks. We do some of our best stuff with KWP. It would be nice to think Marsch could mix it up a little based on what worked with him at RB with him, before him, and after him. SR were pleased enough to hire NJ on deep deliveries, so they'll be happy enough with what Marsch initially offers. However, it was hardly effective for us, although Marsch was operating it at a much higher level. Marsch's style might be a little past it's best. In the same way that RalphBall was great, right up until it got sussed, and suddenly wasn't. A plus will be that a lot of the squad will see lots of Ralphisms. Slight downside if they hated all of that. Marsch will have a striker, which is more than he really had access to often at Leeds, and more than Ralph got after Ings. Having coached Bradley Wright Phillips, he has a Saints connection too. RB are all over their stats, and Jesse has mentioned aggression quite a lot. He prefers pressing to front footedness, but is adaptable. He's clearly very focused, but it's communicated in a relaxed, intelligent way rather than a defensive, chippy way that could lead to a fight in the club car park. I'd call Leipzig and Leeds mixed rather than fails. So, he may have to dig out some failed school tests to convince Rasmus he has sufficient trauma to overcome. Considering the esteem the RB coaching set up has, we could do far, far worse than Marsch. He will want to work to transform us as Ralph did. SR are willing to give time, and have brought in personnel. If nothing else, a direct, pressing Marsch team will be really entertaining, and sometimes scary, in the Championship.

Electric

This is true. I have a new benchmark for "terrible", from the last 3 months, and it wasn't that bad. 🙂

Yeah, I could have actually added my point there. 🙂 I was going to say that Gerard worked best while with Beale, and the pair did fine at Rangers. Without Beale, while I'm sure he has strengths, Gerrard doesn't seem nearly as capable.

Rangers dipped because Gerrard's replacement didn't work out. A distant second in a 2 horse race, Bronckhorst was a long time departing. Rangers have picked up under Gerrard's right hand man, Beale. I'd go with Beale before I looked at Gerrard. All Rangers managers also have the obstacle that is Ross Wilson involved in transfers.

From what I hear, it varies depending on the contract. Some managers have clauses, that will allow clubs break points. Such as propping up the table, or failure to hit certain milestones. These would reduce the payout, or remove parts of it entirely. Others have provisions in place that pay an agreed contracted sum should the manager join another club when within his contract period.

There's nearly always legs in a Marsch. 🙂 In passing, I was reading that his tactics might have been found out a bit at a previous club. I'd like to think we're not bringing in Ralph 2.0. Has a number of the things we'd look for.

Toffee

Only because everyone knows Tuchel's dream job is with us. 🙂

Marsch has come in, kept us up and moved on to Potterless Chelsea. Keep up! 🙂

Mousse

4222 that gets found out, with no plan B? Has a recent sacking on his CV? Some cosy reminders of our recent past and decision making. If his front footedness and aggression stats are good,he's in! 🙂

Well, there goes my next 100 posts. Thanks a bunch. 🙂

I don't think Jones rated Perraud or his "outcomes."With KWP happy enough on the left, and Jones desperate to instill his style, Bree offered a known quantity on the right. I can see his thinking, although I don't agree with it.