coalman

I think the EFL are playing a shitty hand the best they can at the moment. They don't have any good options here.

The EFL's job right now is to somehow get the last promotion spot decided while having it blow up in their face legally as little as possible. If they let the final just go ahead without having some kind of hearing Boro would be up in arms and "Gibbo"'s army of lawyers and media stooges would be all over it. If they kick Saints out without due process then they have a similar problem. Add to that the fact that they _really_ don't want to set a precedent where clubs seek to change competition outcomes in either the media or court with any realistic chance of success. I doubt that Boro get reinstated for that reason. If we get thrown out then I suspect Hull go straight up. Though again, it has to be proportional and they'd have to be confident that the advantage we've gained by doing whatever dumbass things we did is reflected by whatever is decided. In Swindon's case they broke the rules and it was decided they gained significant advantage. I think that's harder to say in our case.

To be fair to the EFL they can't say much more than that. Otherwise they would be putting pressure onto an independent tribunal. The tribunal may have enough information to make a decision quickly or it may be more complicated than that. This is a pretty epic turnaround given the circumstances.

They changed the rules after Leicester so it's possible.

That would spoil the ambience of his golf club.

Middlesbrough FC just published their updated organisation chart with a structure which, they believe, allows them to compete for promotion from the Championship this season and beyond. The new club motto is "Either win or lawyers in" apparently.

Still equally prone to getting stuck between your teeth though.

Jesus Christ. That beach ball could have bounced back and really done some damage to someone. Thanks for pointing that out 1-post-Mick_Channon.

There are two tiers to GDPR fines which indicate the possible maximum. The lower one is 10 million Euros or 2% of the firms global revenue (whichever is higher). The higher is 20 million Euros or 4% of the firms global revenue (whichever is higher). Either of those fines is going to bankrupt a golf club. https://gdpr.eu/fines/ However there are factors which might alter the fine sought and it's up to the regulator in each country how to apply this. For example Meta "only" got fined 1.2 billion Euros for mishandling user data. Instead of maximum fine of 4% of their global revenue which would have been over 5 billion.

Yup. Dates are hard

Interestingly, Hull are quoted as saying on the BBC website that they'd be releasing ticketing information on Wednesday 13th of May July so there does appear to be something in the idea that the EFL have asked both teams to hold back. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyp6r4rdkyo The Boro forum are convinced that a decision is happening today. I can't see the EFL taking the chance to make a decision without giving Saints the 14 days to respond as per their regulations. They'd open themselves up to all kinds of trouble. Unless, the decision was that the play off final is going ahead and any sanctions will happen afterwards. EDIT: corrected because I'm too stupid to write May and wrote July instead

You've clearly not been keeping up with the news. This is possibly the worst crime ever committed in any sporting context ever.

It's in the Mail. Their ability to accurately caption photos is legendarily poor for a reason. If I were Boro I would release the least incriminating photo possible in the hopes of getting Southampton to overplay their hand. At the moment they are drip feeding more information to the press daily (and also a fair bit of misinformation I imagine) plus allowing the Internet to do what it does and make up a bunch of shit. Then relying on the press to amplify that to keep the story in the spotlight.

He has a World Cup football show with Rio Ferdinand coming up. He's trying to get attention so people think he has something to say about football.

But it could be. And knowing that you act appropriately

Do we want to be the kind of team that goes whining to complain whenever something goes against us? We're not Boro.

We've only seen one photo released. We don't know what other CCTV (or other footage) they have. Have to imagine that's not the sum total of the media Boro have for this.

Except any offer or discussion is going to come with "WITHOUT PREJUDICE" attached.

Which is, no doubt, the intention. However, there's a reason that your solicitor tells you not to talk in public while there's a case going on. You can't win a case in the court of public opinion but you can definitely lose it by trying to fight it there. As Simon Jordan said on behalf of his mate "Gibbo" it's about getting Saints to try and settle now and extracting as much money from them as possible. If the EFL kicks us out and they get reinstated it's just a bonus.

This thread made me laugh https://www.reddit.com/r/Championship/comments/1tc4ybd/james_corden_on_spygate/

Thank you, Oscar Wilde.

The Boro forum and Championship reddit is about to melt.

Whilst it may well be right you really can't trust self published metadata in web pages to be accurate.

Is three hours going to be enough for them to peddle all the fake outrage they've got stored up?