Oh no Mick Mills

We also got more points per game last time in the Championship when he played. Unfortunately this sort of thing gets ignored because it doesn't fit the anti Stephens narrative. Mediocre player yes. But no worse when he played in the Prem than Bedders or THB.

THB and Bednarek were both superb last time round in the Championship . We conceded so many due to a weak left back in Manning. Baz in goal. Martins possession at all cost tactics. No decent options at CDM when Flynn was sick.

Totally agree with this assessment.

Whilst off last week I watched the full 70 mins he played in Koln v Kaiserslautern on YouTube. Koln won 4 nil. He didn't score but had a decent assist for the 2nd goal. Apart from that and a couple of passes/layoffs he did very little else. On two occasions his first time passes went straight to the opponents and one was a perfect through ball that Kaiserslautern should have scored. Not going to pass judgement on him based on one game but from that first impression I was rather underwhelmed. More Mara than Che Adams going by that game.

Didn't Frannie get sent off a few times for dumbass reasons? Strange how two limited but committed players to Saints can be seen so differently through the lense of time.

Pleased to hear this. A decent player for this level .

To add further to my pro Edozie stance. Similar to Smallbone they both showed enough quality in enough games to convince me they can do a decent job for us at Championship level. Are they nailed on, first name on the teamsheet type players...of course not . I'm assuming we want a squad of players , not just a first 11 and imo these two would do a good job for us as they both proved in the 23/24.

Not sure you can describe him as a Pretty Average Championship Striker. 23/24 . 16 goals in 26 games. 24/25. 15 goals in 32 games. Best goals to mins played ratio over the last two seasons.

Agreed. He's a good player. 6 goals in his breakout season. Consistently beats his man and he's exciting to watch. Maybe not Prem standard but certainly better than most other wingers at this level.

Sorry, I don't see him hiding in games. Physically not strong enough and a lack of pace yes... but also arguably our best player in the play offs. He's fine as long as we don't expect much from him defensively. He's a much better better passer than Downes. 6 goals and 3 assists says to me an important squad player.

I thought THB was our worst CB last season, which is saying something .

Ronnie Ecklund is the stand out one for me. A more obscure one was Jack Cork in the disastrous 08/09 Championship relegation team. He was very young but clearly a class act.

Bumped into Ken Monkou at a cheese tasting weekend in Brighton..lovely guy.

Looking at his record last season he scored his 5 league goals and 1 assist in the last 11 games.