As poor as Jones was, Let’s not forget he also presided over 2 cup wins against pretty much full strength Prem sides in Palace and City, as well as winning at Everton. So for me there’s no comparison, Martin is even more clueless than Jones. 1 point from 8 games that includes Bournemouth, forest , Brentford, Ipswich and Leicester? Yeah, time to fuck off Russ