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Are these idiots for real? PompeyLor Posted on 05/08/2010 09:17 No point blaming the Revenue Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message So there's no point asking them why they allowed the payment to be missed every year? Would you run a business like that? I'm sure they let us individuals do that. Only a dodgy takeover made the HMRC wake up and realise they'd not been keeping their eye on the ball. Without the arabs messing everything up, we'd still be blissfully unaware that we're not paying tax..

A quote from this article:- However, Sheldon painted a much bleaker scenario should Mr Justice Mann find in favour of HMRC when he delivers his judgment, probably on Thursday afternoon. If this happened, former owner Balram Chainrai would be prevented from re-purchasing the club. “There is no other purchaser,” Sheldon told the court. Is he saying in a court of law, that Chainrai was the owner previously, and that this is in fact, a pre-pack administration. If he is, then methinks they could be in big trouble, and if HMRC had to appeal, then they could on this basis IMO. Also they could point out to Mr Mann, the previous SofA, when her Ladyship declaired that she thought that Poopey were trading whilst insolvent, or words to that effect.

Hey Ho, they're starting to kill themselves!! my_pfc_dream Posted on 04/08/2010 20:42 Email Sent to CEO of HMRC - Short and Sweet Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message Portsmouth FC is the only thing I have left in my life! Take it away from me and my life will be gone forever! It's in your hands...

I suspect the papers will have a field day with this tomorrow!

Those of you, who are letting sentiment cloud their judgment, please remember 12 years ago, when the cheats had their rehearsal, laughing and giving two fingers to everyone, whilst they reformed as PCFC.

So, we all meet back here tomorrow afternoon for the verdict. Who's bringing the Champers?

So their main defence is boo hoo! back us or lose us sob sob Mr Sheldon painted a Domesday scenario for the judge if he fails to back the club in his verdict. He said if the Revenue won the club 'in all likelihood would go into liquidation'. He said it would prevent Mr Chainrai becoming the new owner. 'There is no other purchaser. The only other way in which this club can move forward is through this proposed sale. 'Of course, there may be problems ahead, I do not doubt that.' Mr Sheldon said HMRC wanted Pompey to be placed in liquidation and that the taxman claimed if this happened 'the demise of the club was not inevitable'. But Mr Sheldon told the judge this was exactly what would happen. He added: 'If the club is not sold or very nearly sold by the start of the season it will clearly be relegated out of the football league. 'This will happen because the administrators cannot give the assurances needed that the season's fixtures can be completed. 'It will then go out of the Football League and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' He continued: 'The evidence for this is quite clear. Mr Andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the CVA fails.'

I'dsay so, as they were clearly supporting a team financialy, who were insolvent!

So Hull's future is the next 48 hours, we saw this coming! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1300094/Hull-chief-Russell-Bartlett-denies-Tigers-verge-administration.html

And you felt the need to share this because?

Sue is this? 14:58 [Comment From GarglingBoyle GarglingBoyle : ] I don't understand why the players wouldn't get to vote. Without them we might not have got the CVA passed. Am I missing something? PUP

Deluded fool.... 11:43 [Comment From Sparky Sparky : ] at Jimmy84, Its ok then for Chelsea and Man UTD to buy titles, and Saints to buy the JPT?

Yes we know, you all tried tell us that you were in the know from day one, alas your fan base, it appears, are still deluded.

Loving it... 11:32 [Comment From TCWTB TCWTB : ] We should have spent the money on a new 44,000 stadium for our super fans. We would have sold out every week and not be having these problems now! Pay up Pompey.

At last, the real reason of the appeal.

tHIS... 10:57 [Comment From big jono big jono : ] yes yorkie steve the premier league are partly to blame but why should we expect a multi-million owner to come in? we blew all our money with the plan to repay it later down the line when we secured a new, rich, owner. That is wrong and simply unfair for teams who do it the right way. IMO.

Sums up their mentality IMO 10:55 [Comment From Ron J (Philippines) Ron J (Philippines) : ] pompeypops: if the tax man wins this god help other clubs who can't raise the cash to pay them. Yet another 11:03 [Comment From Ron J (Philippines) Ron J (Philippines) : ] If we lose alot of clubs will go into financial meltdown as they would'nt have the money to pay HMRC.

'tis what I meant:blush:

I believe so, after all, tax avoidence is a criminal offence, ask Lester Piggott.

Did you actualy read what I posted Duncan. You wanted a respose to your OP, you have them. I have pointed out, that if Eastleigh feel that agreived that Saints had'broken' the contract, then the Martin transfer could be deemed nul and void.Is this what you are saying as well?

Again..for nick, this is my point! Given, that AA agreed they were,then changed his mind. 10:29 [Comment From Vaudeville Vaudeville : ] The main issue is whether HMRC are entitled to vote on the £13 million of assessments they issued in May re PAYE and NI on “Image Rights” and “EBT’s” (employee benefit trusts).If HMRC win on this point, and it’s hard to see on the evidence presented to date how they can not, HMRC will win the appeal irrespective of what happens on the other points.

I know Tony just posted this, but FFS nick, are they admitting Chainrai was in charge previously...no, just his ****eyed opinion. 10:13 Mark: Chief reporter Chris Owen has filed to say Pompey's administrator Andrew Andronikou has arrived and taken his place in front of the club's barrister. Also in court is the lawyer representing Balram Chainrai who is expected to take control of the club again if HMRC's appeal fails.

How many times must this be explained, this is not about image rights, that is a side issue. This is about AA agreeing to a debt figure, then changing that figure to ensure the CVA was passed. That my friend, is illegal, hence the appeal.

I think, as has been pointed out earlier, that AP is waiting for the premier clubs to sort out their squads, and then look to pick up a few bargins. Who, is anyones guess.

s not happy that the game with Saints did not take place on a Saturday "as it was due under the terms of the Aaron Martin deal", he also is quoted as saying "next season I hope Saints honour their obligation to play us on a Saturday". According to the Echo when Martin was signed by Saints there was "a written agreement that they would visit them (Eastleigh) for a Saturday friendly for the next 3 years". The Echo goes on to claim "Saints rubbed salt in Eastleigh's wounds by playing Sutton Utd managed by ex Eastleigh boss Paul Doswell "on their one free Saturday". The crowd last night was 1655 which was more than Malone expected. So - is the Echo stirring up trouble or are they merely just reporting back a fact and are duty bound so to do? Are Saints out of order for breaching a written agreement or is it a storm in a teacup? Is it important that Saints maintain a good relationship with their local neighbours or should they be grateful that Saints give them the time of day? So many questions - aint it grand we have a forum to debate them? Ummm! once again Duncan, you appear on here with a negative posting.....bitter I'd say so, as are the Echo. So we played them on a weekday as opposed to a weekend, it's hardly the end of the world, and if Eastleigh thought so, they would now be seeking a cancelation of the Martin contract on that basis. So yes, it's a storm in a teacup, but you knew that before you posted. Is it important to maintain good relations with our neighbours, yes, and we do, but equally, they should be greatful of that fact. So the first point, are the Echo sh1testirring, of course they are, you know it, I know it, and everyone on here knows it, even the trolls. Are they duty bound to report it, NO, they are not duty bound, they just have no morals. For them it's about selling papers, they obviously don't care about the damage they cause. Then again, it seems, neither do you.