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Have you read the thread and other associated threads and the reasoning behind my opinion?

Frustrating is the best way to put it! You'd think that I had done it after a rich vein of form...

*Facepalm* Go look it up, I can't be bothered to even find one for you.

8 games is closer to the 10 than many managers refer to than the 5 you mention. And that is 8 Premier League matches, 10 overall. I was criticising before that, but I don't think I mentioned that he should be sacked prior to this.

Why was it plainly not right? I think you'll find that it was plainly right?!

So was it 5 games when I said he should be sacked? Would you care to show me where I said that after the Villa game?

But it is all conjecture, it is an opinion based on the facts that we know. What facts do you know for sure to defend the decisions he made? As you seem to believe that judging after 5-10 games is too early, how long should a manager be given prior to being judged? The general timeframe is about 10 games, and one that is often referred to by Managers themselves. This thread was during game number 8. I had been vocal about the mistakes that were being made, but this was when I felt he had not learned and that I couldn't see him changing what we were doing. I'm not saying those factors (Cork, Shaw etc etc) had no effect, however I believe the affect was IN CONJUNCTION with the changes mentioned above.

It does not read like that at all. There is no way from reading my posts that people think that I am criticising Adkins for playing Rodriguez ahead of Ramirez. That is just plain untrue and fits perfectly with the persona you have built on this site. Thank you, I never said it, yet you like to put words into people's mouths to support your argument. Frankly, you are what they call a liar.

*Sigh*. It's not semantics when it is the point I was making...

Also, out of interest, did you see how bad we were in the opening 50 minutes against Villa. We should have been at least 2 down by then. We came back and took advantage of them, and thank God we did. However, the 4-1 scoreline did hide a multitude of sins and you would be stupid to not recognise that.

Look, I have responded to your questions, there is no reason to be that sarcastic is there? You can either discuss this maturely and accept that what we said is correct, or you can stick your head in the sand and sit with the 'Smuggers' that believe that no changes have taken place, and it was all a matter of time before we came good.

Yeah I will add to it. If we're missing 2 players, doesn't it make it even stranger that we weren't playing Lambert every game from the start? I will agree, those 2 players have made a difference, in addition to the other changes made to the setup of the team. However, if you believe that losing 4-1 away at West Ham, or 6-1 at Arsenal is acceptable because we are missing 2 players then I will have to disagree. Would you like to show me where I said he was great again?

Who said Adkins is great again? Just more Wummery from you I see.

Of course we have no idea on the factors that affect the team behind closed doors. However, if that's the way you view things then surely you can't give your opinion on anything the team does as you don't understand everything that goes on behind the scenes??!! When Adkins made those substitutions against United none of the players looked like they had taken knocks, and didn't look any more 'leggy' than the rest of the team. Lambert had beasted Vidic all game. Yesterday we were 2 goals up against a demoralised Newcastle. We weren't 1 goal up against a team famed for comebacks and near the top of the League. Please don't try and argue that there is no difference between the 2 situations. "I very much doubt that we are winning because we are starting Lambert every game, not playing J Rod on the wing and stopped taking off our best players, etc." I would disagree. Having Cork and Ramirez back in the side has of course helped. However, not playing Lambert is a big mistake, whatever division we are in (look at Saints record when Lambert has been missing). You obviously also think that JRod has performed well on the wing?!

So what about actually starting Lambert every game? And not playing JRod on the left wing or as a second striker? Surely you noticed he's stopped doing that? Managers always say to judge them after 10 games. After 10 games, it did not look good. After 5 games a lot of us identified the issues, and if we could identify them then surely Adkins could? Yet it took him until the Swansea game to change these issues. It should not have taken that long to realise the issues, and this is one of my main points. As a football manager you HAVE to be quicker to recognise certain patterns and traits.

The sense would be that we have quite a bloated squad at the moment, and selling them off would also bring our wages down quite significantly. I'd like to see us free up wages to bring in a very good CB.

Erm no, I didn't believe he was a moron and couldn't fix it. However, it took him 10 games to realise something that many of us realised after 5. There was no evidence up until this meeting with Cortese after Spurs that he was going to change the way he was setting up and picking the team. Sorry, but that is a long time to not realise that playing a striker on the left wing is ludicrous, or that we should play our best side every game, or that he shouldn't substitute our best players when we only have a 1 goal lead. I don't really care what 'bracket' you put me in. I have had enough good debates and conversations on this forum that the thoughts of a few people that constantly try to play the ignorance card in relation to reading my threads or my reasoning behind what I write that it doesn't really matter to me... We have won 2 games very convincingly. HOWEVER, if he decides to start making strange decisions again that cost us matches, and keep on making the same mistakes game after game, then I reserve the right to criticise him.

What I find funniest about this whole situation is that those now being smug have still failed to understand the points made. The reason I felt that Nigel had to go was the strange team selections, flicking between formations and substitutions that in my opinion was costing us matches. I have outlined these many times on this forum so I'm not going to repeat them. However, since we've started Lambert every game, we've not tried to shoehorn JRod on the left wing, stopped taking off our best players etc, we've started winning. I am happy to admit I was wrong and he shouldn't go, but personally I think people should have the humility to also recognise that we were right after all. Very happy at the moment though.

What I find funniest about this whole situation is that those now being smug have still failed to understand the points made. The reason I felt that Nigel had to go was the strange team selections, flicking between formations and substitutions that in my opinion was costing us matches. I have outlined these many times on this forum so I'm not going to repeat them. However, since we've started Lambert every game, we've not tried to shoehorn JRod on the left wing, stopped taking off our best players etc, we've started winning. I am happy to admit I was wrong and he shouldn't go, but personally I think people should have the humility to also recognise that we were right after all. Very happy at the moment though.

100% this. Onwards and upwards.

Just got in and watched on MOTD. We looked utterly brilliant. Bring on Norwich!

You continue to not read and misunderstand posts...don't you have far more 'important' agenda's to be keeping up with anyway?

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Erm, what about Rupert Lowe?

Brilliant. Ready for 'the referee's a racist' chants to ring round St Marys.