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no, i just want to stamp my feet and be offended by it, i dont want to actually do anything about it.

I am not surprised at someone of your age giggling at silly rude jokes and the words "co*k" and "dildo" being mentioned.

2 people on this thread have expressed their offence at it, surely if we are to follow Joensuu principles that i should change my avatar in case of unintentional offence then this link should be removed.

I am just speaking for everyone else. I am offended for everyone else, even those that wont see it, just in case they might be, that is how we roll on here, okay.

I am just speaking for everyone else, apparantly this is okay on here when you disagree or dont understand something.

I think you'll find i did this on post 28 of this thread, over 100 posts and 2 pages ago, as well as discussing it on other threads, so i didn't with hold any crucial evidence, as you put it. They claim i haven't explained myself quick enough, when in fact the "evidence" as you put it is there for all to see on post 28 of this thread. Hilariously the people who are quickly jumping to accussing me of all sorts of things then go on to tell me what i was thinking and my motivation 6 months or so ago when i changed my avatar from another fictional character to this one. Not only they are the guardians of equality but are also retrospecitve mind readers! If i was so intent on playing the victim and being controversal why has it taken 6 months or so for the Avatar to have become an issue? Surely i'd be drawing attention to it myself from the moment i uploaded it. The hypocrisy of some people is outstanding.

been twice mate, be prepared, it's nothing short of an amazing place, but it depends on what you like. If you want beautiful buildings, expensive restaurants and peace and quiet then avoid it. It's hectic, manic and incredibly interesting, especially at night, the square comes alive at around 7pm when it gets dark. Shake charmers, story tellers, musicians, street traders, open air food outlets etc First time i went we stayed in Agadir and did a two day trip there, went in November again for a week and stayed at a place called Riad Ziane which was absolutely brilliant http://www.booking.com/hotel/ma/riad-zayane-atlas.en.html?aid=318615;label=EN_Whole_Hotel_riad+ziane It's also worth doing a trip up to the atlas mountains while you are there, we also did a Moroccan cooking course for an afternoon, you go into the local market and barter for the ingredients and then go back to the instructors RIad where she teaches you how to cook traiditional Morrocan food. It's also cheap as f*ck, you can get a meal and a drink for less than a fiver, not many places serve alcohol though so you'll need to find the international hotel just off the square or a there is a posh resturant in the square (one of the few there are) on the right as you face it from the end the international hotel is at which will serve beer and wine.

+1 those three, in that order.

That is because they are totally different players, a misplaced pass, mistimed tackle or header from Fonte would likely lead to a goal scoring opportunity for the opposition, if Lallana did this then it's much further up the pitch and less noticable. Lallana is a great footballer at this level and NPC level but we Fonte has been the best defender i've seen this season, he is just a class act and the 19 clean sheets are down in no small part to him. Plus he scored one of the most crucial goals of our season on saturday, for those reasons he gets my vote, by a whisker ahead of Lallana.

For selfish reasons (i am going to Plymouth and not Brentford) i'd like us to win at Brentford and Hudderfield draw at Brighton, then for us to win on monday to seal it, although i think you are right, there is a good chance if we take care of business saturday we could be as good as up, if not then monday will do nicely.

I find it offensive and i expect most on this board will.

Thats brilliant that, very funny, offensive to muppets but brilliant all the same. Well done you.

No, you feel more sorry for them, you deliberately chose to say you feel sorry for me because you knew of the connotations. You could have said you felt sorry for another poster but you deliberately didn't and you now wear your faux donator to the Turkish cause as badge of honour. (See, this speaking for other people and telling them what they think is easy isn't it)

Dont feel sorry for me, my feelings aren't hurt, feel for people speak for other people and spend their whole lives in state of constant offence, even at the most innocent and inane of things, it makes me wonder how they manage to leave the house each day.

that is quite offensive, i know some of you lot are eaily offended so to fit in on here i am offended by this and expect you to be infracted for this unnesssary comment and abuse of another poster both of which are against the forum rules.

I think you'll find if you read an above post from a forum hero it was mentioned so i was proven right, something along the lines of "my love for starting threads like this one and the anti semtism one along with my avatar" was said (although i didn't start the anti sematic one but why let the truth get in the way of a chance for unfounded criticism).

Err no i dont, i'm simply replying to people who are judging and being critical, like yourself. If it was that offensive then why, despite having it for months, have no Mods asked me to change it? I'm not "crying" about it, merely pointing out how quickly some of our forum superstars and guardians of politcal correctness are to critise and accuse based on assumptions and ignorance. Ironic that this is the very thing they would accuse racist of. As for yourself, you appear to be very good at speaking for me and telling me what i think, maybe you've spent a bit too much time watching Papa Lazarou's circus act.

This is my favourite character from the show, why should i settle for someone else? Why should i switch it to someone else because people are ignorant of the show and have their own agendas? The avatar has been explained, not that it needed to be, it's the usual people making an issue of it, it's not my fault people assumed it was something it wasn't. I've had it for a while now and no mods have contacted me to ask me to change it due to the offence it may cause some, so clearly not offensive at all. We are all tolerant people (when it suits us), so i dont see why i should change my avatar as it's simply a character from a TV show, live and let live dont forget. And just for you Joensuuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdtfH2D8j9g&feature=related

Should i put a disclaimer underneath it just to satisfy everyone? Should i go on every thread and post who my avatar is at the bottom of every post just in case it offends people? It's already been discussed on another thread, i didn't feel the need to justify it again and again. It's only an avatar FFS.

No, it really is.

Yes it is. This place is the most important thing in my life. I've already said plenty of times, my avatar was selected based on liking the character from the show, nothing more nothing less, it's other people who have made an issue out of it. If people want to be judgemental and leap to conclusions about it and even when told what it is still continue to attempt to justify their accusations thats up to them, but it says more about them than it does about me.

Again, more sweeping statements, you really need to check your facts before commenting otherwise no one will take your "new very important political views" seriously in the wider world. I didn't start the anti sematic campaign thread and i started this thread and most seem to agree with me that being arrested for playing Kung Fu fighting at a party is ridiculous, as do the police who have dropped the charges. That combinded with my totally innocent avatar of a character from a comedy show led me to the conclusion that you reserve the right to be a petty haughty, judgemental scum bag without actually being called one, quick to accuse and criticise yet unable to back down when proven wrong, you'll probably make a great politician.

I am hurt by this, my raison d'etre is to be popular on this forum. As i say above i didn't think there was any need to justify the avatar as there was no racist intent whatsoever. People started to happily throw around the accusations and make assumptions looking for subliminal messages of racism when there weren't any and when corrected failed to show any humility for leaping to these conclusions it's not me that should be made the black sheep (can i say that? i hope no one is offended by this) of this forum, it's those that are oh so quick to judge.

Again you'd need to read the anti semitism at football thread.

Avatar assasination, who'd have thought something so insignificant could cause such a stir, some people have too much time on their hands and too little going on to occupy their minds it would seem.