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That big substitute centre forward for Croatia is a dreadful footballer then goes and produces one of the best bits of skill of the match, although he looked surprised himself he’d done it 🤣🤣

I really can’t be arsed to argue about it. If people think signing a league one striker to score goals in league one is exactly the same as signing a league one striker to score goals in the premier league then crack on.

bloody hell, he could get a whole set from Dunhelm for £50

You’re, perhaps unsurprisingly, missing the point. We need a proven goalscorer now. You said “makes you wonder why we signed lambert” we signed lambert when we were in league one, from a league one club as proven league one striker to do a job for us ergo, get us out of league one. He then developed with the team over a period of years. We didn’t sign him from league one into the premier league and he straight away became a quality premier league striker. We need to do now what we did then, sign a striker who can score goals in the league we are in. So yes it would “make you wonder why we signed lambert” if we signed a striker from league one for £1m to score goals to keep us in a league two levels higher

Agree on Deeney. His premier league goal record is something like 13, 10, 9, 5, 10 in a pretty poor Watford team. That’s not a bad return and better than any striker we’ve had since Pelle.we’ve certainly needed some of his leadership and aggression.

I used to work in reading. Definition of a noddy club. Most people there support them and someone else like Chelsea, spurs or Liverpool

Course it is, signing a proven league one striker in league one is like signing a proven striker from another premier league club. We aren’t doing that. Not really sure why you’d think it’s any different to that

Im hoping the decision to sign YHGTI was the decision of SR and not Ralphs as it could prove to be even worse than backing Pellegrino with Carillo.

We signed him as a league one club from another one league one club where he was a proven goalscorer. So your point is irrelevant.

16,500 actually, 18000 average attendance less the agreed average of 1,5k away fans. So in the championship a drop of 5k home fans from our first two championship seasons to when we were relegated with a truly awful team.

But you're not comparing like for like, as someone else said a better gauge would be not when we went up when we had momentum, a good team and optimism, but what happened last time we went down, when we went from 31,000 to 23,000. Even the following season when we got to the play offs the average was still only 23,000. 9,000 empty seats at St Marys that were full when we were in the premier league. Even using your average of 1500 away fans, that league 21,500 Saints fans, thats a big drop.

The flip side of looking at it that way though is that Walcott, Lallana, Schniderlin, Bale and Oxlainde Chamberlain wouldn't have come through like they did if we'd still been in the premier league all that time. They got their chance because we were in the championship and league one, They were obviously all very good players but they would have been playing B team football for a lot longer, were they better players because they played regular football for us rather than B team games until their early 20s? Impossible to say but cant deny it any of them would have been playing regular first team football in their teens if the were in the premier league.

That was probably the Burnley game. we'd just been given the ruling by the Football league that if we stayed up we'd be deducted 10 points and go down anyway or if we went down we'd start next season on -10 points. Still pisses me off they were able to do that. We drew which meant we went down anyway at the final whistle but there was a general feeling of doom around the place. A fews before we'd lost 2-3 at home to Charlton who were bottom and we'd just announced he company was going into administration, remember them trying to claim a loophole to say the parent company not the club was in admin but that was never going to wash.

Not true. that season we had big away followings for the games against Pompey, West Ham, Reading, Brighton, Leeds who all sold out their ends. IIRC Derby, Forest, Birmingham, Leicester, Cardiff, Bristol City, Watford, Burnley and Palace all brought large away followings of at least 2000. The only really small away followings were clubs like Doncaster, HUll, Blackpool and Peterborough. You're making out all clubs in the championship are tiny with small away followings, this is nonsense. There are some big clubs in that league trival well and amusing that 2 of the 3 outside of the big six you list as bring 3000 were in the championship with us and did bring that many fans. In the championship we probably had about 20000 every weekers, of which i was one, then another 6-8,000 who'd turn up for a big game. Whereas now we've got about 26,000 who go every week and a few thousand more who will turn up for a big game, so in a crowd of that size it's a significant amount who are there to watch the other team.

It did last time and does for most clubs, When we went down last time out attendances dropped from 31,000 to about 22,000, the year we came back up it was better think we averaged around 26,000, which is by no means bad for that league, but we were top two all season and playing some of the best football in years. I've said many times over the years that a large percentage of our "fans" are premier league consumers, not fans of Southampton FC.

I'd quite happily compete to win the championship every season and when we do refuse promotion. I know many fans are sold on the Sky, Premier league best league in the world horseshit, but it's only best league in the world if you're one of the best teams in it, for those outside the top 6 or so without billionaire or country owners it's pretty shit. Starting every season with the main aim being to scramble together enough wins to stay up to do it again next season, having the media and pundit fawn over how brilliant all the big clubs are when they beat a team where their bench cost more than the entire squad of the opposition, it's shite if you support a smaller club. The championship is far more competitive, lots of clubs of similar size with most having something to play for and none of the wig, facepaint, tourist helmets or I want to be entertained, match day experience bellends.

Relegation means certain relegation again and administration.

The Pellegrino season was fantastic. Being in this division, getting to play against amazing clubs and players, watching a team of internationals like Hojbjerg, Hoedt, European champion Soares and World Cup quarter finalist Boufal was wonderful. We may not have won every week but I’d much rather see us grind out a 0-0 draw against premier league opposition than canter to an easy victory in a non competitive match against a team of of has beens and never gonna bes. The quality of football in the Pellegrino season was higher than anything we saw in adkins seasons, as proven by the fact the same players lost 8 of their first 10 games when they got promoted.

By the way does anyone know if those pundits out there taking their money are still doing their bit for humanity or has that died down now?

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If this isn’t a come and get me plea to Nathan Jones I don’t know what it

Part of the problem might be that some men or women feel they have to announce they are men or women to the rest of the world before they are even asked what gender they are in case it offends a minuscule minority of people who would be upset if someone addressed them as male (for example) when they consider themselves to be female

Maybe she likes getting rattled listening to this?

That is what he said. I have to say Soggy you’re much more tolerable when talking about football than when you’re relentlessly whinging about stuff on the lounge