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Well that’s told him How did you come to such a knowledge?

We need Baj to return to the forum on this one, he hunts them!

Lost it mate. First celebrating Christmas now some mental logic about the world being completely disrupted because they wanted to fulfil a prophecy on purpose, not all of it of course, just some of it.

You did say that "1) Do you know what a 'self fulfilling prophecy' means? Because if someone is aware of an old prophecy and then people are actively working towards fulfilling it... it isn't in the slightest remarkable" The prophecy that Raging Bull directly referenced was one about Israel being restored to Israel, and the countries from the north, ie Russia, surrounding the northern border. Secondly are you seriously telling us that the world decided to put Israel back in Israel simply because they were trying to fulfil a prophecy? Mental.

Exactly! It didn't mention them, so how were they going to be able to self-fulfil a prophecy if they didn't know anything about it?!!

OKay so the only people self fulfilling the prophecy are the israelis, the ones on the border, also part of the prophecy, just happened to be there. EIther the entire prophecy is self fulfilling or none of it is

I didn't make anything up pal 1) Do you know what a 'self fulfilling prophecy' means? Because if someone is aware of an old prophecy and then people are actively working towards fulfilling it... it isn't in the slightest remarkable. 2) The Bible passage you quote is so vague and doesn't even have dates. Why does it not mention 1948? That would at least at least make it a little more impressive, but even if it did have dates that happened accurately I'd then refer you to my first point 3) You say 'as if by magic Israel became a nation'. The creation of Israel was due to people working to make it happen. How is that magic or divine intervention? Jews wanted it to happen... so they worked to make it happen" So Russia, Iran and Turkey must only be there because the are self-fulfilling a prophecy, a prophecy they didn't know anything about. Proper dense.

You really are dense. How would Russian, Iran and Turkey be self- fulfilling a prophecy they didn't know anything about?

So you’ve just blown apart your own argument about self fulfilling prophecy, people knowing of a prophecy so deliberately fulfilling it

Iran is a muslim country, they seem to be doing their bit to deliberately fulfil a bible prophecy.

No because it’s subjective. You’re asking me to speak on behalf of a higher being, okay I know I’m supremely talented which is a burden I have to carry but I can’t speak on behalf of god! Absurd you’d expect it.

You’ve respirated to a stand up comedian to support your views?

The term All powerful is relative.

I don’t know any of the answers to your questions because I would be speaking for someone else and there is no evidence as to what god knows about the future. So as you love and need evidence for everything I’m afraid I cannot answer.

That is due to imperfection. The design was perfect but Man was designed to be Adam and Eve, male and female but each generation is more imperfect than the last, so things like short sightedness and others ailments are common place. Due to sin and imperfection humans have become like a mass produced Chinese Verizon of a rolls Royce. It also explains why there are so many more gays and LGBTS than 2 or 3 generwti’ms ago.

Do ducks rape other ducks? Ridiculous thing to say.

Why do you think it is terribly designed?

Why do you think you have to avoid hell? What do you think happens when someone dies?

maybe you're looking in the wrong places?

I look forward to round 2 in April

There are none so blind as those that cannot see. IN any case, Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites, he doesn't like people who say one thing and do another, so you're screwed matty, best hope those computer games can save you.

I thought he looked in the games before that too, aside from Pompey, thought he looked a handful against Liverpool, he just hasn't managed to get a couple of goals yet.

Edit - okay just remember he didn't start that one. #fail

THe one against West Brom two years ago for starters.