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You live your life playing computer games so you don’t understand.

That was a great goal in terms of quality, brilliant pass, great run and finish in front a a quality saints end that day. Longs against Liverpool was something else though, only thing that comes close celebration wise was lamberts goal at st Mary’s in the fa cup and at frstton in the league v Pompey.

The difference is I haven’t complained about everything and anything for years, whoever the owners and management were. I’m sure Martin semmens, Toby Steele etc are decent people but they simply don’t have the experience to run a premier league football club and are completely out of touch with what a fan base like that of Southampton needs. Look at the saints voice ffs, all about promoting women, lgbt, what about actually telling the club what the 98% of other fans who are going to actually shift the needle want?

We could probably do with a completely new back four and central midfield. We’ve got a whole load of players who are exactly the same crap level in all those positions

Spot on. The club management seem to have complete forgotten we are a football club and are more interested in all the periphery stuff. We have all the match day experience nonsense, midweek smiling faces at training videos, endless virtue signalling, when we exist to be a football club and the better that is then everything else follows.

Some of the players didn't like him, but they didn't like Pellegrino, Hughes and now apparently they don't like Hassenhuttl. Kind of tells you what the issue is doesn't it.

Again that's not true is it. Against Liverpool we drew 2, won 2, drew away at Man City, beat Arsenal away in the cup and only lost to them in the league up there due to a very controversial injury time penalty. Then we lost 1-4 home to spurs, 4-2 away at Chelsea, 0-3 at home to Man City. So a mixed bag of results but hardly tells your story of a manager who sat his team up to play for 0-0s and was happy to accept a 1-0 loss.

maybe Kat was coming on to him, I picture her dancing seductively on stage whilst looking over the microphone into Ralphs eyes singing how she has given her heart to Hassenhuttl.

What have Leicester fans got to do with it? Many Everton fans wanted Koeman out but he's a hero on here. I agree with the first part of your post, the fans wanted attacking football and we managed to somehow get someone more defensive

No but the fans never took to him, he was up against it from the start. That happens but like you many people dismiss Puels as a terrible manager who played boring football but forget that the summer Puel joined he lost Mane and Pelle, our two highest scorers from the previous season, Wanyama, our best defensive midfielder and then had the behind the scenes issues of Fonte coming back from winning the European championship and causing problems. Then he had to play half the season without Van Dijk and Fonte and big chunk of it without Charlie Austin who was supposedly Pelles replacement. More or less the entire spine of Koemans team ripped out in 6 months. They also forget that at times we played some very good stuff and despite all this statistically led us to one of our best ever season in terms of league position and reaching a cup final.

From the very start people were slagging him off for his boring interviews. Loads of people said it.

And we could easily have put 3 or 4 past Liverpool in both cup games. Talking of the cup run did you think we set up to draw 0-0 in the final? Puel wasn’t the most attacking manager but he isn’t anything like the myths made out that he played for draws, it was boring football all season, it’s simply not true. We were dull at times but we were dull at times under koeman and pochetino too, both had far better players than Puel had. The fact is fans didn’t like him from day one because he wasn’t a particularly dynamic personality or the big name fans expected.

That’s absolute nonsense. A Myth perpetuated by the last few games when he set up defensively because he knew that in Stephens and yoshida he’s had the worst pair of centre backs in the league. We’re you in Milan when we should have won 4-0? Were you at Sunderland and Watford when we scored 4 goals away from home in back to back matches. Or when we won 3-0 at West Ham. The bunley home game we won 3-1 we had 34 shots at goal. Absolutely laughable the myth that Puel played for 0-0s every week. Yes Puel did set up defensively sometimes and sometimes it worked, in four games against Liverpool we won two and didn’t concede a goal. Sometimes it didn’t be’er Sheva for example. He changed the tactics for the opposition and he had to do it once he lost van dijk and fonte as what was left was dreadful, as has been proven time and again

He’s a right back

Puel was absolutely lambasted for being negative and setting the team up defensively. Now everyone can see why.

Football clubs are very different Charlie boy. People walk around in football shirts and even get the clubs crest tattooed on their bodies because they want to be part of something, its part of who we are. You don't see people walking around with Leyland tattoos that they got put in their bodies in the 70s do you. the key to customer satisfaction in football is your club representing your city, having an identity and a cause. We aren't going to win anything like 85 or so other clubs so what makes fans keep coming back? What is going to make the next generation want to be part of SFC? At the moment we don't have any identity whatsoever, we're not a club any more we are a business that's trying to squeeze every last drop of cash out of its fan base and offering nothing back.

Imagine it, genuinely not on of the saints squad I wouldnt fancy in a scrap. Little bunch of pussies. I reckon a few of them would cry if anyone put it on the, like all Lana did back in 2008

Why does this club exist? In years gone by it was to represent the people of the city. In more recent times it’s become a rich mans hobby and a way to get money out of China. The match day experience survey I got recently told me all I needed to know about Southampton FC in 2019. What did you think of the food? How was the queues? What did you think of the pre match entertainment? We are run by a marketing guy and the evidence is there for all to see. Anyone who has been a fan of our club for more than a decade will know we don’t expect champions, we don’t expect to win every week, we want a team that tries hard, plays good football, gives the big clubs a good game and now and again beats them. Maybe I’m a romantic hankering for the old days but in my humble opinion a club like us should not ask our fans how can we serve you? How can we improve your experience It should tell us how they are going to do it, telling us this is our vision and this is what we are as a club and we as a fans can be inspired by it win, lose or draw. all these bulls7it “we march on” platitudes are not back up. They should inspire us to want to come to st Mary’s, not be asking us how they can get us there. The people running this club do not inspire us to believe it them, they are a joke, a collection of nice people who won’t tell our Chinese friend the truth, well they say the Chinese don’t like losing face, on another forum over 60% of people voted him the worst owner in the premier league. Yes goa, you’re considered worse than mike Ashley and the sullivans.

2017 January window was poor it possibly cost us the league cup final, but you could also argue we weren't going down so perhaps a good time to give Stephens a run in the team to see if he was good enough. The fact that despite some on here claiming he was quality and better than Harry McGuire, he proved beyond doubt he wasn't simply highlighted the failure to address the issue in future windows as all the more incompetent. January 2018 was comedy from before it even opened. We managed to sell Van Dijk and pocket the cash before the window had even opened, then for the rest of the month a whole list of leaked big names and unrealistic signings given to the press ended with us making one of the worst ever signings in the history of soccerball then compounded by sacking the manager, who was the only reason the player signed in the first place only a few weeks later. For desperation, lies, incompetence and comedy value January 2018 will take some beating, I don't think it will be topped, but 2020 has potential

He was nicknamed Whiskey George for a reason.

Masters at it, they really think a few nicely worded press releases and a few rumours are enough to appease the fan base.

Hasn't it been like that the last two Januarys? What did we get, Van Dijk sold and Carillo in, last year nothing. An of course the year before Fonte was sold and Van Dijk got injured with the only incoming a free transfer who never played. Hardly fills you with optimism does it.

they probably have the players capable of doing it though

LOL the unrealistic signing rumours have started. Weren’t we linked with a Barcelona centre back a few years ago in January as well? There will be a few more of these, at best a late loan then a “we tried really hard but it’s a tough market in January” We’ve been here before so many times

Used to see Beattie, Gary Monk and Wayne Bridge in the Rhino a lot. Also used to see Matt Oakley, Hassan Kachloul, and a few others from that time in Cenos a fair bit. I remember seeing Claus Lundekvam so smashed he could hardly stand up in town once. Probably the best story though is of a certain former manager of ours trying to break into a pub after closing time