hypochondriac

Bit harsh. He clearly has a problem

Good spot. If she decides to GHTOFTL on pageant day then I'll vote for her.

I listened to a radio programme about it one time as well I think on five live. Apparently about 70 percent of homosexuals have said they have been a victim of domestic violence in some form but within their culture it's never reported. Of course all domestic violence is bad and should be tackled, all I'm saying is I can see why the vast majority of adverts and helplines about it are female- simply because they are the group most at risk.

Nice to see I'm not the only one who has a more positive view of Britain than the likes of krg. Apparently I'm not discussing it in good faith though so he has run away.

Whilst I agree with you, what they need to do is deal with it proportionally and my guess (based on no research admittedly) is that male perpetrators of domestic abuse are much higher and thus more is done about it. I was told by a police officer friend that actually the highest proportion of domestic violence is dished out by male homosexuals against their partners yet you rarely hear about that.

Outrageous. Where is lou and krg to tell us how terrible society is?

very very well said Mikey.

Right so you do change your behaviour for the benefit of others. How is a band in a public space moderating their language not the same thing?

Is there any occasion you would consider swearing unacceptable?

Where do you draw the line? Is sexually explicit language OK? Descriptions of violence?

No my argument is "things have improved dramatically and are currently better than at any other point in human history. Sexism and racist still exist in society but human nature means that they will never be totally eradicated. People from other European countries cite the tolerance they find here as the primary reason for moving here. We should be thankful for the work that has been achieved in this area and that the cast majority of UK citizens are now tolerant and accepting of others. We can also recognise that we can always do better and that despite the fantastic progress that has been made there is always a need to keep learning and improving things as a society." So my message is actually a nice positive one. We have done brilliantly in eradicating most of the overt and most offensive forms of racism and Sexism such as denying women the vote, rights for black people etc. We are the most tolerant and accepting society that has ever lived in the UK and if we continue along our current path with education and legislation, we should continue to see racists and Sexists becoming even more of a minority in the future. I have faith that we will continue to do this because of all the hugely positive changes we have seen in just the last twenty years. There is no reason to think imo that we will see any dramatic reversals in this area. Certainly I have never seen any evidence.

I considered the UK you described to be hellish and not a UK that I recognise in any way. These people who have stated that racism is getting worse, for how long do they reckon it has been getting worse? At what point was it agreed by all that it was getting better and when in your opinion did it change again? Does this apply to homophobia and Sexism too or are they separate cases? Have we seen a rise of racism in the media? How is this characterised? Genuinely interested in your responses.

Plenty of others have expressed the complete opposite. I mean we're hardly in the realms of civil rights from the 60s or love thy neighbour are we?

Any opinion on the rest of it? Feel free to remove the word hellhole if you disagree with it but that's how I'd describe a country that is so openly racist Sexist and homophobic and where it is such a massive pervasive problem over the whole of society.

Depends what you mean by society I suppose. Of course you will never eradicate Sexism or racism and you have unrealistic expectations if you think that. My experience and the experience I have talking to many others from all different ethnic backgrounds (including my fiancee whose dad is from Iraq) is that in general the vast majority of people are accepting and tolerant. Your description of Britain as a Sexist, racist and I presume homophobic, intolerant hellhole is not something I or anyone else I know recognises. Yes we should look to create a more equal and tolerant society but that isn't done by grossly over-exaggerating the issues. Ask any Polish person why they have come here and almost all of them will talk about our tolerant accepting society. I know this because part of my dissertation was about this.

Nothing is perfect, there is always things that could be better or could be changed and we should always strive to be a better and more tolerant society. People like you though want to make out there is some huge problem when actually it's probably the best it has ever been. I think Sexism exists in England but I don't think we are a Sexist society just like racism exists but we aren't a racist society either.

Hold on, wasn't it reported today that it was Clarkson who reported it to the BBC?

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By that logic they are going to understand what hardcore porn is sooner or later. Doesn't mean I'm going to plonk them in front of xvideos.

And not sure why you have to exaggerate so much. I swear what i consider to be a normal amount but when I'm out in public I try to moderate my language and topics of conversation because I understand that some people would rather I didn't do it. It isn't too difficult a task to show some consideration for others.

I see what you mean. Might as well start shouting c*nt as I walk down the street and see how long it takes to get arrested.

Nick Clegg is the most electable bloke in terms of personality and how he comes accross in the media. Shame his party and policies (and reneging on deals) make him unelectable.

As usual displaying no empathy for others. Certainly wouldn't want my two and three year old relatives listening to that.

If killing in the name of was sung in the middle of the street in broad daylight then yes. If they wanted to sing the song with the swearing left in then why not do it somewhere where the swearing is considered acceptable? Didn't expect you to agree anyway, you enjoy being deliberately obtuse.

I think his point is that there is a certain stigma to unwed teenage single mothers in this country that maybe doesn't exist over there. It's art though so he could literally mean anything.