John B

Give it a rest thanks to Tonda the Club is in a mess that will take sometime to resolve

Why is it a shit show from SFC it is a far more complicated situation at St Mary's than at West Ham Much depends on the FA Investigation and its outcome I doubt the club would want to keep Tonda if he was found guilty of bullying and other cases of spying came to light Of course three cases is too much but the cheating is pretty low level and most people think it does guarantee success but Tonda will no doubt get some punishment. Carrying out the spying during the playoffs was particularly stupid and when we were caught it was pretty obvious that we would be chucked out

You may think it is ridiculous but it was rule we should have respected we did not so we have to accept the consequences. That said Tonda will get a decent job somewhere else and I will follow his career with interest A number of sportsmen have been banned and returned successfully

So he has admitted cheating what do you think his punishment should be

It is hardly the end of the world somebody's error of judgement which rightly led to our non attendance at the playoffs, We just need to be patient and support the club another year in the Championship was always going to be a problem but now we need a new manager as we cannot have someone who has been found guilty of cheating in charge I remember Bloodgate in Rugby Union where Dean Richards of Harlequins was found guilty of cheating banned for three years but returned and became Director of Rugby at Newcastle for ten years

Surely it takes time to carry out the refund of 37000 tickets with special IT routines possibly having to be written which takes time

Based on what?

Perhaps there was no corruption but a lot of cheating by SFC The panel was swayed by evidence not conspiracy theories IF you have evidence feel free to reply with it

Totally agree it was cheating and the punishment was correct in the circumstances as we were trying to cheat to get to the PL but there is a chance Tonda did not know of its existence and only applies to the EFL Most people in football seem to think that the information being collected will make little difference to the outcome of the games involved

I am the same vintage first game August 1962 I am still going to support them It is my club and yours too We are where we are lets get on with it I am not really annoyed Football is just a cess pit

You can believe anything but the only fact we have is that SFC cheated and got punished get over it if other clubs are doing it no doubt the EFL will get involved From what I have seen filming other teams has not been particularly successful in producing winning results so why do it

Well breaking the rules is cheating and that is what we did in order to get to the PL so what do you suggest our lawyers should have done as it is not easy to defend the indefensible ,

You must be a moron if you do not realise that the media is there to highlight wrong doing What we did in cheating was a disgrace we deserve all we got

Southampton had admitted to "multiple breaches of EFL regulations related to the unauthorised filming of other clubs' training", the EFL said. The club have also received a reprimand in respect of all the charges.

I do not think you understand what I am saying The case is about whether we cheated and what punishment we can expect all the stuff Boro are saying is totally irrelevant to the process except they caught the Intern filming They may well take our place in the final but Boro and their stance will not be part of the evidence put forward to the tribunal because SFC could probably appeal against or sue the League if they did I still cannot believe that the club sent up somebody to spy on opponents and if they did they will have to accept the consequences which are potentially mind blowing. Gibson and Middlebrough are just mudding the waters which of course they are entitled to do I think we may have to accept the club was stupid as they have not said they are not implicated and have accepted the charges We did have a good season did we not culminating in a great result last tuesday which of course could happen again this tuesday we survived going into receivership in 2008 I an certain we will survive this mad episode