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Who's going overboard. When the chat was first launched i commented on it being old fashioned and basically crap. This was met with defensiveness. My comments were the truth and i went on to explain how it was far inferior to a chat we had on 4es ages ago. Saintandy666 confirmed that i was correct. I understand the chatroom would have taken a few minutes to set up here so i'd be ****ed off if i'd done it and it was criticised, but i'd also like to think i'd recognise that it was crap and would take the advice given onboard.

Point 3 has already been implemented.

I've been critical and have offered some good advice. That is called constructive criticism.

Jillyane not for the first time you clearly don't have a clue what you're on about.

AwaySaint1 has spoken about the problems encountered and from the way he talks he seems to know what he's on about. I believe the problem is not a financial problem, but a lack of expertise in this field. Getting someone like him on board could help.

Please explain as you've lost me there.

It's gone now, i don't understand how that happened.

Baj, why are your responses so aggresive in nature? I get the feeling you've tried everything and are now stuck hence the defensive agression. Is this a fair assessment?

Not at all. If St Marys ticket office computer functioned perfectly well all week (when not busy) but crashed on a matchday due to the amount of customers it would be criticised. If the same problem occured regularly it would be unacceptable. This is a football site and therefore it should cope when football is being played. If the site failed to perform and it was a one off then that'd be fair enough, but the situation is ongoing with no sign of improvement. I've been critical but i think this is what is needed because this site charges and is therefore a business. Although it might not be a business designed to make money it's still charging for a service it doesn't deliver when it matters. If the ticket offices performance was as bad on a matchday would you not complain?

I'd hardly call expecting improvement over the period between TSF starting and now as people wanting solutions "now now NOW". How long has it been since you replaced Saints Forever? It must be getting on for two years now!

we can still win this.

we could have done with noriwch winning or a draw.

Well block guests during matches then.

Yes he did.

Corner to Saints.

And with slightly less than the greatest of respect you charge for your site and Keith never did and he didn't have the issues you have with the server.

PM matt and use the one he set up before.

Free kick to brum on the edge of the box...

That's better, there was no need for the pm as i was only providing a service.

The Match thread can be found here. Whilst TSW is suffering from it's normal problems during matches feel free to use my reliable site. http://foreversaints.1talk.net/forever-saints-f1/birmingham-v-saints-match-thread-t19.htm

http://foreversaints.1talk.net/forever-saints-f1/birmingham-v-saints-match-thread-t19.htm guests allowed to post.

When CB set the chatroom up on 4ES he spent ages checking for bugs etc and we had a cracking chatroom. This TSF effort seems like a bodged job.

It seems like that. the chatroom looks sht1 and works sh1t and the forum is worse than usual.

[2009-03-07, 1:38pm] aussiesaint20: if only he could pass [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] aussiesaint20: i think the jockey has been fantastic recently [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] Instant Classic: Dunno, Adam. He is good at holding and running at defenders, thing is as Rob said he doesn't seem to know when to do what [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] aussiesaint20: especially with the 9 players we had playing behind him [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] aussiesaint20: agree CanadaSaint, the striker is always going to the first blamed when goals dry up, playing up front alone was never going to suit him [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] robsk ii: I mean, I think we all knew it would, but it helps people bed into positions and get used to picking passes [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] Adamw: McGoldrick needs people further up the field to succeed [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] Instant Classic: Any injury news? [2009-03-07, 1:37pm] robsk ii: Well, canada, I think that's true. But he's played alongsdie lots of people - so maybe it's a bit of stability that has helped in that regard as well [2009-03-07, 1:36pm] CanadaSaint: robsk ii, I don't think McG actually had a defined role until a few weeks ago. That was a big part of the problem, especially as that applied to others, like Lallana as well. ------------- [1:38 pm] You are now talking in Birmingham v Saints [1:37 pm] aussiesaint20: i think the jockey has been fantastic recently [1:38 pm] aussiesaint20: if only he could pass [1:38 pm] robsk ii: He should run until the risks of running aren't worth it, as it were, then hold the ball up, and the rest of the team need to make that work [1:38 pm] aussiesaint20: offtopic- mitchell johnson - the ashes decider? [1:38 pm] aussiesaint20: have just seens kelvins save by the way [1:38 pm] aussiesaint20: AMAZING [1:39 pm] CanadaSaint: "Ploughing the lone furrow" is one of the hardest roles in the game, and we gave it to a 19 year old. [1:39 pm] Instant Classic: From when? [1:39 pm] saintkenny: Indeed [1:39 pm] Adamw: cardiff i think [1:39 pm] Instant Classic: Ah yeah [1:39 pm] Instant Classic: World class [1:39 pm] saintkenny: Everyone confident today? [1:39 pm] Instant Classic: And he made another great one about 2 minutes before [1:39 pm] Instant Classic: Nah, not today [1:39 pm] Adamw: i'd be happy with a point [1:39 pm] Instant Classic: As would I [1:40 pm] saintkenny: yeah, I would take a point [1:40 pm] saintkenny: Wouldn't mind 12 in 4 though [1:40 pm] Instant Classic: A point up there would be a great result [1:40 pm] saintkenny: [1:40 pm] aussiesaint20: Is anyone out there thinking Killers new role and our form reversal is just a coincedince? [1:40 pm] CanadaSaint: We play better against better teams, so I'm hopeful. Optimistic is too strong. [1:40 pm] Adamw: but we must winn our next games against Derby and QPR [1:40 pm] robsk ii: I hate birmingham. [1:40 pm] aussiesaint20: 4th, 4th and 6th beaten in the last three weeks [1:40 pm] Instant Classic: Yep [1:40 pm] aussiesaint20: why not 2nd [1:40 pm] robsk ii: I also hate people saying "must win". [1:41 pm] aussiesaint20: must win game today [1:41 pm] Instant Classic: Birmingham are such a strong team. However we HAVE already beaten them this season [1:41 pm] robsk ii: It's ********. Until it gets down to maths and ruvival, there are no must win games. [1:41 pm] CanadaSaint: We never really saw a "partnership" at the back until Killer entered the picture. He knows how important that is. [1:41 pm] aussiesaint20: anyone take on the 3-0 at 80/1 [1:41 pm] Adamw: Plus, we beat Reading when everyone expected us (including me) to get steamrolled [1:41 pm] Instant Classic: Size and Perry is the perfect partnership [1:41 pm] Instant Classic: Is he fit today? [1:41 pm] Adamw: worth a tenner [1:42 pm] aussiesaint20: did jan find size? [1:42 pm] Adamw: i think so [1:42 pm] Kadeem Hardison: Welcome everyone. Baj has designated me SWF's official chatroom host. Any questions should be directed at me. [1:42 pm] aussiesaint20: would be at least one thing he could hang his hat on [1:42 pm] Instant Classic: Jan signed him [1:42 pm] Instant Classic: But I think Wotte knew him from his old club [1:42 pm] Kadeem Hardison: I am NOT A MODERATOR. [1:42 pm] aussiesaint20: cheers instant [1:42 pm] Adamw: or was it van der Waals [1:44 pm] CanadaSaint: Kadeem arrives as "Not A Moderator" and we all clam up! [1:44 pm] aussiesaint20: do we think the protests were a deciding factor in the removal of portaloo? [1:44 pm] aussiesaint20: and will there be protests before the qpr game [1:44 pm] Adamw: i hope so [1:44 pm] griffo: Doubt it [1:44 pm] aussiesaint20: would really send a message if there are anti lowe protsts after a string of great results [1:45 pm] griffo: No one can be ***d when we're winning [1:45 pm] CanadaSaint: If there are they will be half-***d. [1:45 pm] jonny_lewis: which is fair enough.. [1:45 pm] Kadeem Hardison: We should do a protest on here before kick off. Anyone up for it? [1:45 pm] aussiesaint20: then he wouldn't be able to dismiss it as just fans upset with results and not his running of the club [1:45 pm] griffo: Lets go [1:45 pm] griffo: WE WANT RUPERT OUT [1:45 pm] Adamw: LOWE OUT [1:45 pm] aussiesaint20: SWING LOWE [1:45 pm] CanadaSaint: The censor filter has suddenly appeared [1:45 pm] Adamw: SWING RUPERT LOWE [1:46 pm] jonny_lewis: *** [1:46 pm] griffo: This whole chatroom thing is ***ing ***e [1:46 pm] aussiesaint20: it's because you havn't embraced a colourful font griffo [1:46 pm] aussiesaint20: it really does lift your spitits [1:46 pm] aussiesaint20: *spirits [1:46 pm] griffo: Will try that right away [1:46 pm] Kadeem Hardison: Ok. Thanks for your PMs of support. Protest details are as follows: at precisely 2:58pm we all post "Lowe Out!" + any other comments you would like to make. [1:46 pm] Thorpe-le-Saint: Get in there, only 15 mins until I get to hear Will 'Can't' Cope screech down the microphone again [1:46 pm] aussiesaint20: i can see this getting otu of control during the match however [1:47 pm] griffo: There will be too many comments [1:47 pm] aussiesaint20: any team news? [1:47 pm] aussiesaint20: far too many [1:47 pm] griffo: Yes [1:47 pm] griffo: We play in red and white [1:47 pm] griffo: LOLOOLOLOLOLOLOL [1:47 pm] aussiesaint20: and on grass? [1:47 pm] Kadeem Hardison: It is important that we are all co-ordinated in this lads. It is the only way they will see how organised we are. [1:47 pm] Adamw: Rupert Lowe is playing [1:47 pm] griffo: No [1:47 pm] Instant Classic: This is St Andrews, Aussie so I wouldn't count on it [1:48 pm] Kadeem Hardison: Team news to follow: [1:48 pm] aussiesaint20: laughing at your own jokes, grounds for dismissal? [1:48 pm] Kadeem Hardison: Shortly: [1:48 pm] griffo: You may or may not have realised but I was being sarcastic [1:48 pm] griffo: Wow [1:48 pm] griffo: Loving the font colours [1:48 pm] aussiesaint20: actually not a bad idea there adam, ruperts head in goals would surely scare off any opposition attacks. [1:48 pm] Kadeem Hardison: 1. Kelvin Davis (he will be playing in goal) [1:48 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:48 pm] aussiesaint20: a head not even his mother(does he have one?) could love [1:48 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:48 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:48 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:48 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:48 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] Adamw: who's up for starting a Mexican wave [1:49 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] griffo: SPAM [1:49 pm] saintkenny: GOALLLLLL [1:49 pm] Kadeem Hardison: griffo, please respect the other users. [1:49 pm] aussiesaint20: JASON MULEEEE [1:49 pm] Adamw: and aussiesaint, his red cheeks wil get even redder in the cold [1:49 pm] CanadaSaint: I thought he was singing a Monty Python song [1:49 pm] Kadeem Hardison: We want this chatroom to be a welcoming place. [1:49 pm] aussiesaint20: translation- shut your trap you annoying git [1:59 pm] saintjay77: for thelip readers i mean [1:59 pm] Kadeem Hardison: I don't understand Thorpe?

Theres loads of us in there now.