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It's a fair point and the truth. We've done well but could've and should've done better. We've been good most of the time, but what with the start to the season we had with the turmoil and starting from scratch very late on it was always going to excusable having a bad start. If we'd had an average start we'd be knocking on the door or even in the play-offs now, but que sera sera and all that, we are doing alright now and next season is what we've got to look to. We've got to get better though and money isn't going to help us reach the next level in L1. It's all about players and managers doing their jobs well. The play-off should be easily reachable next season - in fact it's a certainty imo that we'll do this much, but that aint gonna be a good job done, that's second prize and only a salvaged sucess if we win the lottery and get through it. At least 2nd is a must and Champions is what we should be achieving.

You're right, but once you become sucessful you can maintain it, although many don't, so you don't have to experience failure to fuel that hunger i.e new players comes into a sucessful club and club continues to be sucessful. We got so many challenges ahead but we have got to aim to be like man utd. They are the best and have been the best for a decade and more baring a few brief spells when they dipped a little bit. AP is alright but he's no Fergie, you have got to be both respected and feared have a fiery temper balanced by a good heart to be a top manager, youve got to trust your people because they are working for you and most people thrive whern given responsibility and are respected and you've got to be good laugh and likeable and finally you'e got to be someone that stands up for whats right, not someone that brown noses because brown nosing only gets anyone so far and even if they fluke it really high up they'll never be the best because they don't have the whole package of abilities that are required. Brown nosers i.e Wotte or Hoddle soon get sussed and because theyre a brown noser theyre all ****s and that's why Hoddle ultimately failed - he could only live on record as a great player for so long before players started thinkimg this guy is nobhead and he couldn't get them motivated to want lay their lives on the line for him and try that necessary bit extra because there wasa bond of respect. Not sure AP has the fiery temper and can use it to give a great motivational blast. Of course he has a temper - the interview the other week showed that, but is his temper fiery enough to put the fear of god into players and them take it seriously and act on it and not take it personally but be inspired by it ad then (and this is vital) be able to change like the wind and not hold grudges or sulk and treatb everyone (it must be everyone) as genuine friends and part of your team - there because you really want them there. Liking someone in business and football should have nothing to do with whether you like them as a person, but whether they do their job well and therefore give the results that in turn are used to judge your performance.,AP is who he is and it'd be so false and transparent to try to change. Hell you can even be wrong about things in everyone elses opinion so long as you are right. The worst thing to do when your back to the wall and everyone disagrees is to back down because if you're right you're right and it matters not if you **** people off, but the vital ingriient of sucess and i think this is AP's main strength is that what you see is what you get and he seems the sort of man that has honour and integrity and he'll fall on his sword if need be, but at the lesser extreme he'll not tell NC what he ~may~ want to hear, but the truth. I reckon this how NC would want it because any manager that gets off on flattery and nodding dogs is a fool. NC is no fool, he is on a mission and when you're on a mission you win at any cost and your pride and ego is irrelevent compared to the objective. NC is ruthless - you dont get that high up at his age by being anything less than an utter cuunt if it's required and you don't think twice about it - it's just natural and business. wining winning winning - that is allthat matters. Basically Fergie is a god to his players and that's the ideal situation. I'm comparing the perfect manager (Fergie) with AP so it's a bit unfair and AP will always comes out with weaknesses, but you've gotta calibrate with a top quality bench mark and Fergie is the manager that everyone should want to be.

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Forget the table and the fact we're in L1 for another year, focus on the days out and we're going to Wembley. Noddy cup yes, but it's Wembley and that makes it special. We are not the finnished article as team, if we were we'd not just win regularly but win almost every time and certainly not lose to swindon at home and tranny away in a week. That aside we hammered wallsall, hudds and beat a Leeds side that murdered us up at elland road. You choose which result you focus on, but we can agree that we do need to become consistently ruthless. Asking more of the players at present isn't relly fair as they are doing their best, they just need to be confident without being ****y. They need go into a game determined to play better than the opposition. It's all simple stuff, but the mental factors in players minds are as important as anything done on the training ground. I don't we've got much of a problem here, but you never say you're there as there's always something to improve. What i'm saying is that we have the machines but we just need to learn to work them to their optimum efficiency. It's all there ready to go if it's managed properly and with AP he's a smart guy. He'll do the business.

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I reckon we have a classic season comeing where we win the title and it's gonna be awesom to follow us. The best season since 84 and i don't remember those days well, but its gotta be around then when we belived we could become great.

edit maybe we didn't deserve to win tonight, but you gotta respect the fact swindon did things right and you have to admire that

We were going wrong between november and feb, but we have improved and we are competing in games and should have won evry game we've played in the last month. we deserved to win them, but you always get what you deserve and have go that extra mile to make sure - thats what makes a champion and with the large and good squad we've got we should be able to consistently go that extra mill for most games next seaon.

So you're one of the smiley faces that sit behind the counter. I'm imaging you work in a large town centre/city PO and not a village PO in which case i'd imagine you as late 50's and likes a gossip.

Well it's not good enough. Drums are the worst thing that can happen at a football match and banging the back board constantly is drumming. This has to be stopped and the best way is through the proper channels and a few friendly words. Kids will be kids, but that doesn't mean you let them do as they like.

Great Ibiza tune from the day. the iconic song of that year, must be 93ish? http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F510AE84028DA292&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=08riCpq-cXc

this seems pretty good, probably early stuff, and not what i was looking for, but just listening to it and i like it. Edit ha ha yes it is the song i like but doesn't start til around 4.0 and it's not a good version

But a flying device could well have been invented long before that if you are open to the posibility that there is intelligent life somewhere else out there and you'd have to pretty naive to dismiss this possibility given the infinite size of the universe and the fact we either evolved from minerals or grew from "seed". I mean that in a metaphorical sense.

It's amazin how people can recover so quickly from alcohol, not many can, whether this is applicable to me or not is er what it is.

**** struggling to find any decent trance, so a bit of classic house

I used to like this ****, but not so keen anymore, pprobaly just normal house is better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWlgbAc3bbM n.b this tune rings no bells, don't reckon any would, but i had several of these cds.

Now time for cheesy old tunes. edit no it aint they are playing crap.

My dad watched the battle of Britain planes flying over Bexhill on seas when he was a boy. Reckons the sky was black with planes. Not since 1066 have we come that close to being conquered so i'd saying witnessing the battle is a pretty impressive thing.

That will make sitting here seem worthwhile and not a complete and utter waste of hours. I liked school but didn't like the subjects we did (apart from history which in my day wasn't a politically corrected version of events - kids deserve the truth and facts and then shoulg make their own minds up about what they think about it, not be influenced by a PC cuuriculum that is essentially political brainwashing of children sold under the guise of education. That is not the interesting bit, the interesting little tale i.m going to tell another time when i've thought of one suitably interesting You may well wonder what the first paragraph has to do wiyh anything, well most of the interesting things i know about are histotical events that have already happened, i jusr typed that (literally) and it is therefore an historical event although clearly not an event suitable to be called interesting although typing that and fitting it in with saying i just typed thas prtty cool, but i must admit it was more luck than judgement,

i'm gonna regret this but doesn't rhetoric mean spin or waffle? If so you may have a point although i've forgot what the point is thar you say is rhetorical so will have take your word for it although you may be wrong but you may be right, is rherical black and white ( in something being black and white like a choc ice, nah bad example like saying pompey fans are nobs - they all clearly are so this a black and white scrnario)if noy it may just be mildly rhetotical or gray althouhj theres ptpnably a better eord that is applicable to this scenario

Yes if the person i'm talking to is on the fish counter and i want some fisg, not that i would ask for salmon as i aint keen

I'm trying to appreciate it as i like all sorts of music, but mainly house through to classical (pretty much the same thing if you think about it) and i can see myself enjoying being there, but not being into the message and what it stands for. For this reason primarily i'll never like the pistols but they do have merits for being good in their day

Right this should be good, but what i'm looking foir is one of my all time favs - not sure what it's called though " it goes On you bastard la la la la la la don't be so ****ing serious. Any ideas?

It's a beautiful song, not my thing really, but you gotta appreciate the voice and the fact it means a lot to other people. You used to get a lot of people on the club scene that went on about comercial clubs being **** etc, but comercial tunes only become comercial because people buy them because theyre good. I just found this seems ok, but not really enought whizzy bits second thought i can find better, it's alright but mazin so i won't post, may just go for an old tune i like.