Sour Mash

Its not my definition, I didn't write the Oxford English Dictionary. What I expect or don't expect isn't the point, you told us that there was a clear backlash, which has shown definitely not to be the case.

Out of interest, were these events arranged by moderates? http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/01/labour-faced-with-sexism-row-again-after-men-and-women-were-segregated-at-asian-rally-5536791/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11581329/Senior-Labour-politicians-Liam-Byrne-and-Tom-Watson-attend-segregated-Muslim-rally.html

Ah, of course, the old Chapel End Charlie approach - when you don't have an answer, resort to name calling and making things up. Speaks volumes.

You haven't followed the last few pages at all it seems. As I said, weird post.

I haven't said any of those things. Weird post.

So a handful of people wondering along with a few placards, no-where near, in sight or sound, of who they're protesting against is a backlash? If the people they're meant to be opposing don't even know about it? It's not a strong negative reaction. It's not antagonistic. However much you want it to be so.

So they're protesting outside an extremist mosque? Which Mosque? How many people are protesting there?

Which link?

In your own time of course.

Loads of things can kill and ruin people's lives, on that basis you wouldn't have cars or food sponsoring us either. Gambling ads are non-stop on every single live game coverage on tv, not going to make any difference if they're on our shirt.

I wasn't expecting that, wasn't me that made the unfounded claims of the clear backlash from the moderate muslims.

It's not "my" definition, that is the definition of the word "backlash". Feel free to stick up the links to "a strong negative reaction by a large number of people" or an "antagonistic reaction"?

Possibly, but tell that to the poster that says there has been a clear backlash from them.

No, just proving him (and you) wrong.

And that's your "backlash"? In response to widespread, sustained killing and terrorism, we've got some leaflets and placards, not even totalling the 800+ UK nationals that have gone to join Isis. I'll have to repeat myself, but that's not a backlash "a strong negative reaction by a large number of people, especially to a social or political development." or "An antagonistic reaction to a trend, development, or event"

I'm sure someone, somewhere has. But the point being discussed is above. Clearly there hasn't been a backlash from the moderate muslims, despite everyone searching all over the internet they're struggling for examples.

See, this is interesting. We're told that its only a very small minority of muslims that are terrorists or have support for terrorism, but more UK muslims have gone to fight for Isis than were on this march. So, was this march a tiny minority of muslims, completely inconsequential? Or are the numbers that have gone to fight for Isis significant? You can't have it both ways. Furthermore, the march wasn't carried out by Muslims calling for "peace and unity". It was a march that they hold every year and were holding any way, a few held up placards. That's not a backlash "a strong negative reaction by a large number of people, especially to a social or political development." or "An antagonistic reaction to a trend, development, or event" it doesn't fit either definition of the word "backlash"; there's not a large number of people, its not strongly negative and its not antagonistic. But apart from all that you're right.

Put up the link to the antagonistic marches?

Yes, really. That wasn't even a march organised for protesting against terrorism, but well done for trying Is that all you've got? More UK muslims have gone to join Isis than went on that march, just to put it in some context for you.

No-one has said there has been no reaction at all. There hasn't been a backlash, which is what he stated.

You said that clearly there was a backlash from moderate muslims, you made that up.

Or any other company. People get into debt buying cars, holidays, electronic goods, I don't know anyone that's got into debt from gambling.

I am. Better than most of the other tv kick off times or a regular midweek game.

Its not really up to what I want them to do, I was just pointing out where Sad Old Git was wrong when he said there had "clearly been a backlash". Full integration into Western Society, driving the extremist elements out would be a start of course, but I won't hold my breath.

Anyone know if the people that arranged this meeting are moderates or not? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11581329/Senior-Labour-politicians-Liam-Byrne-and-Tom-Watson-attend-segregated-Muslim-rally.html