alpine_saint

TDD, I live away from the community for genuine reasons which I am not willing to discuss with you at all. That does not mean I am not entitled to feel a sense of loss about it, and you are in NO position to judge me for it. You've turned into a right pr*ck recently.

Didnt affect the team so badly against Hull.

Well, let me make it clear. My feeling about this is not really due to the fact that my family lost two of its members. Its more to do with the hope of a sense of community still existing in Southampton. Coming on this thread has depressed me in this respect. Seems that living in a post-Labour, inept-coallition led, X-Factor obsessed modern Britain has turned most people into "I'm allright Jack" NIMBYs.

Sorry Wurzel. I really dont get the point of this at all. Is the club called Southampton Football Club, or not ? Does it claim to be a important part of the community or not ? Why do the players bother visting sick kids in hospital at Christmas, for example ?

Your analogy ? I thought I responded to Mardsinho..

No I dont, but if faced with it in a minutes silence at SMS, they might, for a mircosecond, reflect on it. I miss Southampton terribly, and feel strongly about it and its history as a result. I reckon if a few of the mongs on here were to spend an exended time away, they might end up feeling differently. I find it tragic that the sense of community in modern-day Southampton appears to be so poor. Then again, I should have realised the last time I went, when my sons and I sat down one seat to the left of where we should have, and a big fat c**t of an ST holder came along and grunted at my eldest kid, and when he politely said "pardon?" because he didnt understand, the repetition came replete with four-letter words...

I am not going to get into this with a pedant. A major tragedy struck the city, whose name is carried by the football team, almost exactly one hundred years before the Reading match. To reflect the good links between the club and the communicty it serves, and whose name it carries, I think the club should mark the occasion., I am also happy for them to mark the significant anniversaries of other tragedies in the city, like the deaths of the kids in the Art Gallery during WW2. I would rather this happened than remembering the likes of Gary Speed, and fretting over Fabrice Mwamba. And I find the arguments on here against are petty and selfish. Its my opinion, I think it is valid and pursuasive and I am entitled to it.

Well, I am not travelling back to Southampton, so if you think thats something worth ripping the p*ss about, I suggest you go and get on with it. Fill your boots and make yourself look petty if you want. I dont understand your sarcasm over this. I will think of some way to reflect on it, short of putting Leo and Kate in the DVD player.

I do accept it, but I am still strongly of the opinion that they should do something. Its a pity, since this game certainly represents the biggest congregation in the city within the time window that the tragedy happened 100 years ago.

I think some of you lot should lay off Billy Sharp. He still has demons he needs to fight, and it doesnt surprise me if he is very up-and-down at the moment. Maybe NA saw his mind wasnt right on Saturday but had no choice but to play him considering RL, DC and TL are injured and LB is lacking matches.

Does Remembrance Sunday teach anyone about the horrors of the trenches in WW1 ??? Really, some of the analogies being used on this thread are utterly moronic. Who cares what the city name painted on the hull was, this was a city-wide HUMAN tragedy.

Are you proud that RJ Mitchell developed the Spitfire in Southampton and it took its flight from Southampton ? For me, you either have an affinity with the city of your fathers, and therefore its history, or you dont. I find living away from Southampton that I feel strongly about all things to do with Southampton, and that includes SFC, the Spitfire (some Aston Villa c**t of a fan tried to tell me a while back the Spitfire was designed and manufactured in Castle Bromwich, stupid pr*ck; I tore him such a new arsehole) and the Titanic. I reckon half of those who are "getting their knickers in a twist", are pathetic class warriors with a hang-up about the class issues on the Titanic, which did nothing more than reflect the values of the time.

This.

Totally with you man, but unfortunately the name on the stern was Liverpool.

Opinions are like arseholes; everyones got one.

It was an utterly irelevant fact.

An idiot with a better grasp of the English language, (and probably of football as well) than you.

Two great points. I think it is irrelevant if some of those who died, historically viewed as Sotonians were actually from Liverpool or Belfast. The fact is that their familes grieved and had to pick up the pieces in this town. There was a very interesting article in one of the papers a while back, the link was posted on here somewhere, telling the stories of hardship and support that happened. This was a massive event in the history of the city, and the football club carries the name of the city. For me there is nothing to debate; the club should mark the passing of the anniversary. I dont understand the controversy, and am putting down the nay-sayers motivation to simply being the usual contrary and cantankerous individuals.

Let's worry about that once we've got there. We've got 6 games left, and if we carry on like we did yesterday for them its an academic argument anyway because we wont be promoted.

You'll have to point out to me how that post of mine inferred he has no right to express his opinion, in fact, I encouraged him to drop the melodrama and elaborate further. I note he has declined to do so. And I get accused of being a drama queen... I also dispute his profession of choice somehow gives him the right to tell what the rest of us is appropriate or not. Finally, I find it distasteful that the idea of a simple low-key commeration of a city-wide tragedy is compared to ridiculous acts of mawkishness such as following Dianas death and following Mwamaba's collapse.

How about one "no" and a reasonable coherent explanation of your motivation ?

Explain how 5 minutes commemorating this before kick-off prevents everyone getting behind the team. Why have you got such a f**king problem about this ? I note you were the first to dismiss it on the original thread too. I take it you had no relatives on the Titanic, like many of us had.

Does anyone know if Rickie Lambert travelled with the squad ? Assuming for a moment that the club arent covering up his real condition, I am wondering if he would have at least made the bench if West Ham had won.

And subsequently more for you to get abusive about.

There might have been more to discuss, like who we do put out to catch our opponents off-balance.