Unbelievable Jeff

Well, at least you lot don't have this to moan about anymore, eh?

Who has said he is? No-one. You're arguing an argument that doesn't exist.

Then why are you expecting us to sign much better players? Surely Long is our level and a good signing then?

Oh, and just out of interest, do we think that maybe this transfer bid is to hurry up other targets? Always a chance...

He actually is decent at playing on his own or in a two. I think he will be back up and not a starter in general.

So what are the bad things then?

I think you're misunderstanding what his question was as the first two points are irrelevant to the initial question. He asked why the 12m, I said why, regardless of the first two points. Don't forget the money is paid incrementally through the season, so the first time the clubs will see the full benefit of it (ie have the cash flow) to make larger purchases was this Summer, but of course I expect you took that into account. Yet again, clueless, and just trying to trip me up as part of your weird obsession with following me round. As said previously, you obviously have a massive issue with me, so either you can put me on ignore, or we can meet up at West Brom and discuss it if you like?

Why do we need sell on value?

He has laughable opinions. Clueless. Yet again being embarrassed on another thread with his (lack of) football knowledge.

You have missed 2 things. New TV deal which has increased the amount that players are sold for, and the fact we have lots of money and other teams know this. That's why.

People complaining that we are paying nearly 5m on top of his January price and the prices of players in general aren't taking into account the fact that we have a lot of money and clubs know this, and the new TV rights deal, which has put 25% on everyone's price this summer.

You obviously rate Campbell more than a lot of the rest of us do then, which is fair enough. In my mind Long is a far better player than Campbell.

Agreed. 12m is a lot, but with the money we've brought in we aren't going to get value in the market. Not sure he'll be a regular starter and certainly won't when J Rod is back.

We wanted Bony then I presume.

Why? We did alright in our first season up with a worse side.

I think that's it, I don't see potential in those other two. Please don't think because Wickham scored a few goals at the end of last season that means he's going to be any good. Don't forget Michael Ricketts did what Wickham has for a whole season and turned out ********.

Another 'football' fan to put on the 'Ignore their opinion' list.

We've had our disagreements in the past Rich, but **** me, you're 100% correct on this. Turns out until now I was giving these morons too much credit.

How do you work that out? They haven't got better records. Wickham is known for having a terrible attitude and Borini has said he won't be leaving Liverpool.

I took a few days off from this site due to the embarrassing nature of the posts, and I think I may have to do it again. Seriously, half the people are hypocritical retards. I just don't get it. I assume it's the anonymous nature of forums that means they can act out like children with no repercussions, you only have to look at the contributions of Hypo, Batman, Shurlock to realise this. Using back of the fag packet psychology I assume they are incredibly unfulfilled in other parts of their lives, and so play up on here to try to make up for it. Sad times for this forum.

Oh dear, ****lock being a retard again. Standard.

Troy Deeney was 10 million and unproven. Ings is obviously not available. Campbell is bullocks. Mutch isn't a striker. Sinclair is on massive wages, more than we can ever offer (60k per week plus). Liverpool want 15 million for Borini and scored the same amount of goals last season. If that's your idea of improvements I think you're vastly underrating Long.

I love how this forum thinks it's amazing at identifying players, and then comes up with practically no-one who is better value. He's fine. 12m is a lot, but then markets gone mental and we NEED a striker.