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****ing hell. What rock did you crawl out from under and thanks for your contribution - very worthwhile and incisive. You must be very proud of yourself (just to justify the patronising *** comment).

That wasn't the question and that wasn't the answer. But I can see how you only see what you want to see. Any answer to the question about who 'they' are yet by the way? No, thought not but I think it's quite clear what you meant.

To be fair, it's not just Soggy and I. If you look back a few pages there are a good few rational posters on here that share the same view of SMs posts in particular but he's not alone. I'm surprised that you can't see it to be honest.

Still not answering the question then.

No ... no, you haven't. The question was who are 'they'? You have failed to answer that but given that your comments were in respect of Islam and it is fair to say that a religion can't 'blow up people on a huge scale' then presumably you refer to the followers of Islam, who by definition are Muslims. To answer your question ... maybe broaden your mind and realise that there are extremists/fundamentalists in all religions. Try reading this as an example: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/comparing-republican-christian-values-to-islamic-fundamentalism/ and a quick google of christian terrorism will also answer your question. Try it with the other religions too and see what you get.

So who is the 'they' then SM? The followers of Islam?

In what way do you find them to be extreme then?

As SMs comment was in response to a post about the followers of Islam as a religion then the 'they' he refers to can only be referring to that group of people. Nowhere in his comment did he refer to extremists so I don't see why you would assume that's who he was referring to. No doubt SM will be along to clear all this up and confirm that he has no problems with Muslims living in the UK.

The march was postponed so the Police could concentrate their resources on the investigation into the attacks. What's your point?

http://news.sky.com/story/1667040/man-charged-over-double-murder-in-redcar This can't be right ... this article suggests that non-muslims commit murder too. I'm sure if I did a quick google search I could find that this is probably a daily occurrence across Europe.

"However, prosecutors insist that the murder is being handled as a criminal rather than a terrorism case and deny reports that his work pass was stolen, according to the Belga news agency." "A source from G4S told The Telegraph: “He was killed at gunpoint at his home. All indications are that it has nothing to do with his work, from what we understand. There is no missing pass. All his uniform and his papers are accounted for. G4S are co-operating with the police investigation.""

See post #2293. Nothing else to say really.

You clearly haven't read all posts on here hypo as that's clearly wants been implied.

Haven't seen anyone saying that. No one's said that either. Just asking why Batman seemingly wants to stop Muslims coming here after the terrorist attacks committed by Islamist extremists but seems to take a different view when the terrorists happens to be white Christian European. No its not. That's your view but it's not fact. The fact that some extremists twist it to fit their own means doesn't mean that all believers of the religion share that same extreme view.

I don't see anyone apologising for anything on here. Not sure where you got that from.

Agreed but as you're seemingly blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few why aren't you taking the same view with Christians here?

The South Mash stock answer to a post you can't argue with ... "oh, you don't understand" or "you made it up". Great debating skills as usual. You'd remind me of the Monty Python 5 minute argument sketch if your views weren't so repulsive.

Or how about this one: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/sep/01/far-right-support-anders-breivik One day you may get it. If we were to use your thinking, in this example all Brits would think the same as these people. But, we know that's not the case, in the same way we know that all Muslims don't share the same views as the Imam in your article. I'm sure you do understand it, it's just that you choose to vilify Muslims because they're different to you.

Hang on, so you want to ban all Muslims coming into Europe because a tiny minority are terrorists? Well on that basis, do we ban all right wing activists on the basis that Anders Breivik killed 77 people in Norway? If so, there are a few on this forum that would be on the first ferry out of town. So, now who would you rather have at your back? Anders Breivik, Mo Farah or maybe, James Caan. I think in that situation, I'll stick with the Muslims thanks.

Thank you. Glad I could help you come to terms with who you really are.

"Radovan Karadzic, the former Bosnian Serb leader, was convicted ofgenocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity, by a United Nations tribunal on Thursday for leading a campaign of terror against civilians that included the slaughter of 8,000 Bosnian Muslims at Srebrenica in 1995" If we have to stop all Muslims entering Europe as a tiny minority of them are terrorists given today's news above, at what point do we stop Christians leading nations in Europe as one of them slaughtered 8000 innocent people right on our doorstep.

Which is why you post newspaper articles about a Sudanese paedophile as though it's their culture that drives it but conveniently ignore an article in the same paper of a British paedophile as it doesn't suit your agenda.

I take your point Milbrook but if you look at the facts, the Brussels bombers were Belgian nationals, Lee Rigsby's killers were UK nationals and I believe the two fellas locked up today were UK nationals too. These aren't the people coming into Europe to escape Islamic extremism in their own country. There is clearly a risk but to put it in perspective, you're more likely to be killed by falling furniture than by a terrorist attack. It's an horrendous shocking thing to happen and these events are meant to cause terror, and without belittling the effect they have, the chances of your (or my) daughter being caught up in it are very very slim indeed. Having said that, I do agree that the sort of people that we're talking about here, who are known to the 'authroities' should be weeded out and detained, however I suspect they're using much more covert ways of entering the EU than jumping on a dinghy across the med.

And rather than just search out articles on Islamic terrorism, if he wanted a more balanced view of life, maybe some googling of Christian terrorism might show that it's all as one sided as he wishes it was.

Maybe you could spend your evening reading up on the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist.