TwoPints

The link doesn't work for me.

Are there 500m people living in Southampton now then which is the potential Sceptical was taking about, hence my bonkers comment (which it was). I prefer to put it in terms of 1.8% of the population which gives a little more perspective on the number.

Just bonkers plain and simple.

This. Exactly.

Well you're a charmer aren't you. You seem to be suggesting that because you've paid more than the average amount of tax and not used the NHS as much as others then you're somehow entitled to a better service than others and not have to put up with your wife being in a ward where apparently no one else spoke English. How long do you think someone would need to be employed on the minimum wage before they should be entitled to free health care? British or otherwise! And to blame all of that on immigration when net immigration is only about 1.8% of the population is really stretching the argument.

Really! I've let my eyes and experience affect my judgement over many years. No prejudice in it. If they'd ever gone out of their way to improve the NHS I'd have said so but they haven't.

No, its not a ludicrous comparison. The point being made was that aintforever had decided that he wanted out of the EU because there were Poles in A&E at the same time that his wife needed treatment. He doesn't know who they were, what they've contributed, whether they were working here or just on holiday. There are thousands of British expats in Spain who are free to use the Spanish health system, many live there, are elderly, not working but use the health service there all the same. Do you not see how that is comparable? As I said, the reason that our health service is crap is not because of 'immigrants' many of whom work for the NHS (indeed those Poles might have been NHS workers, who knows) but the fact that successive Tory governments make it their business to screw it up.

And god forbid that you or your wife travel to Spain and fall ill. I can imagine the Spanish having the same conversation about you clogging up their health service as you have about Poles in the UK. The main reason A&E is **** is because the Torys are in power and they always **** up the NHS. It's what they do.

I wonder what the nationality of the doctors and nurses that looked after your wife was. I also wonder whether the 'bunch of Polish people' you refer to were hard working, tax paying Poles that contributed their share to the NHS as most of those that I have met are.

Ooh, wonder why you didn't post this story instead? http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Guilty-Torquay-sex-offender-walks-free-court/story-28390522-detail/story.html Could it be because this is a British sex offender in Torquay that wasn't imprisoned for his crimes? I wonder where you'd suggest sending him back to?

Probably better than picking selected articles from selected newspapers then misrepresenting them to support your own agenda.

Not just the Daily Mail, this fella will trawl through any old rag to find a story remotely related to Muslims, the Torquay Herald being a prime example where he misrepresented a story about a Somali to feed his agenda.

Doh! Just read your post again! That one went right over my head (I think) ?

It was about £30 per quarter. If you only have them come once (no point as your lawn will look like a ploughed field when they've scarified it), if you have them for a year it would have cost £120, if you keep them for ten years, it'll cost you £1200.

Depends on the size of your garden. I've got a good size garden (not large but big enough) and I think they charged something like £30 per quarter {but that was a few years ago now).

I used Green Thumb a few years ago,. They come round, take a good look at your lawn, quote a price and then get on with it. Seemed to know their stuff. My lawn was covered in moss and weeds so they scarify it (amazing how many bags of moss I ended up with), put some seeds down, then they come back every quarter to give the lawn different treatments depending on the season. I must say, my lawn was beautiful while we used them. I stopped after I was made redundant and the lawns gone downhill again in the past few years. Will definitely get them back in one day.

"The governor of the Bank of England has said that the possibility of Britain leaving the EU is the "biggest domestic risk to financial stability"." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35751919

Well it seems a little fairer now we can see the whole story. He didn't get off jail because of cultural differences at all, in fact the judge rejected his claim. He wasn't sent to prison as it was better too give him an alternative punishment. Presumably you posted this to help your argument about controling immigration but this story has nothing to do with it. It doesn't matter where he came from, he would have likely received the same punishment. 'But his mitigation was rejected by the judge who said the offences could not be put down to cultural differences and were simply sexually motivated. Abdullahi was given a community order and told to attend a sex offender course designed to improve his conduct with young women" "Judge Cottle said if he sent the defendant, of Beggerswell Close, Bristol, to prison the sentence would be quite short and he would come out an untreated sex offender. The Thames Valley Sex Offenders Treatment Programme was a demanding course, he said, and would be part of a three-year community order with supervision."

Can't say I've seen that story but I suspect there's more to it than that.

This

****ing hell. Really? I was jumping about like a loony when we scored. I hate losing against BFS sides and today we deserved at least a point.

I thought their keeper kept them in the game to be honest. Agreed it was far from our best performance but I thought Romeu and Van Dijk in particular played well and although Tadic seems to have got a lot of stick, for me, he did OK and caused them allsorts of problems second half. Overall result not good enough but on another day we'd have scored another 2 or 3. For me, Van Dijk is player of the season by a country mile.

So what are you trying to say here? That the Ford plant wouldn't have closed if we weren't in the EU, that no companies should close and move abroad if we're in the EU or that being in the EU caused the closure? Either way it's nonsense.

Armada

I'll not tell you again, but maybe if you bothered to put some effort in you might realise you're talking **** before you starting typing.