Guided Missile

Wrong Canadian, then, pal...

I now remember why I called you Moose Boy. I called Dan Williams, that ex-pat from New Jersey that was going to buy Blackburn Rovers and then us with someone elses money, a "ginger whinger". Gingeltiss than called me a racist, for calling Dan ginger and you joined in, loudly condemning me for the racist overtone of my insult. There followed a long thread about the colour of Gingletiss's hair, whilst you tutt tutted every few posts. I think it is probably Dan Williams and you that started this aversion I have to reading posts by ex-pats, although I think Dan Williams and his alter ego Help Me Rhonda showed just how important it is to ignore what ex-pats post with regard to Southampton Football Club. Oh.....and don't get me started on Mike Wilde....

I got this far and realised that this statement must mean that English is not your first language. I do look forward to your next post that completely misrepresents what I posted, although I'm still a bit busy trying to find the racist comments in my original post...

I must admit, I always thought that it was an unfortunate quirk of genetics that made Canadians so boring. After reading that post, I now realise that simply living there causes it. I am having the terrible feeling that you actually do think that what a user named Guided Missile posts on an internet site is a personal attack... ...scary...

Where did you learn that "GM had a difficult period when he lived in the USA". I think you and the other ex-pats should re-read the OP and realise it was a pretty mild critique of a number of the posters on this site. The first response to it was to label me a racist. (Thanks Eric and Phil, you guys must be a bundle of fun) I love the US now and when I lived there. I just happened to avoid ex-pats like the plague and mixed with the locals. In my experience, ex-pats in the US were an odd and misplaced bunch... ...and is what they say relevant to the normal fan that goes to St. Marys every other week? Not really. A waste of bandwidth, most of the time...and the Austrian house husband is top of the list...

What happens if the PL forward Pompey enough money to ensure Burnley go down at the expense of West Ham, Liverpool make 4th place at the expense of Man City? Never happen IMO...

Phil, I don't know you, but I think you may have spent a little bit too much time in the sun, or behind a computer screen to think there is a personal element to the posts. I'll give you a hint. These aren't real life relationships. Guided Missile isn't my real name and I type opinions on a public forum, as a minor hobby. That's it really. Feel free to construct some sort of personal element to this, if it helps you get through the day, miles away from home. Even totally overreact and call me a racist (ROFL). If I was you I'd would spend a bit more time building a real social network at home in Dubai, than venting your spleen against a poster named "Guided Missile". As would a few more of the expats on here. (Moose Boy, you know who I'm talking about) It might help their attitude...

I'd hardly thought that a very mild thread about ex-pats would be backed by the target of my thread, nor indeed cared. I am able to recognise them, because they wear their ex-pat status as some badge of honour, in the form of their internet handles. You know, alpine this, tijuana that, canada blah, dubai blah, internet poster of arabia... Listen lads, it's great you post, but you left the city, you left the country and your names signify where you're at, value wise. It just happens to needle me slightly when I read the regular criticisms of our club, city and country from someone tapping a computer many miles away. I just don't feel the need to provide the small feeling of belonging your local sporting institution fails to bring you... ...sorry and all that. I mean, it's not like we have any real form of relationship...

Reading your post just confirms my point. Boring and irrelevant to the fans streaming into St. Marys nowadays. The nostalgia part cemented the impression, in my mind. I lived in the US for 11 years and hated the way most of the ex-pats continually moaned about the UK and yet, given the opportunity, milked any patriotic situation in a frenzy of flag waving nostalgia. Emigrate, integrate and adopt the local customs, because banging on about how cr@ p/great everything is in your adopted country and how cr@ p/great everything was in your mother country just p1sses most people off.

I think it is possible that the Premier League paid the wages from the funds they held back. They paid the January wages, but I guess it's possible they may have paid the February wages as well.... ...although, I assume the £8M the club negotiated for the transfer of Kaboul and Begovic was net of VAT....so, it is possible that the wages were paid from the £1.4M of VAT which would explain why the money owed to HMRC has increased substantially from the original £7.5M amount they were claiming in the winding up order.

Chanrai offered Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs an immediate ­payment £1.8m on an outstanding VAT bill of about £7.5m in the hope of being granted more time to find the remaining money to avoid administration, according to this article dated 9th February. Coincidently this is just a few days after Chanrai/Portpin snagged £4M from PCFC's client account at Fuglers, after the Kaboul/Begovic transfers, so I guess he could afford it. The offer was rejected, presumably because HMRC wanted all of the outstanding bill paid. Sounds so dodgy, as the dates of these transactions are after the winding up petition and no wonder HMRC are p! ssed off.

Readers may recall this wild speculation on my part. It seems that this may have been confirmed by the intrepid administrator. Despite the appalling grammar, this was what Harry Harris quoted Andrew Andronikou saying, as he made his lawyers job a lot harder, in this article. "The administrator is seeking something like £30 million from a new owner to underwrite creditors, and take the club forward. He continued: "We have a secured creditor for £13.5 million, and that is the current shareholder and owner who has fixed and floating debenture, which means Fratton Park, the players and all assets of the club. "There had been loans of £17.5 million but Chainrai has prepaid £4 million of that, and he continues to have a charge over all the assets. The proposed sale and lease back of Fratton Park did not materialise because it had not been completed before I came into the club." So, the latest story is that he has a secured creditor (Chanrai) the current shareholder and owner. His loans were £17.5M, secured by way of a charge on Fratton Park, but are now £13.5M as Chanrai has prepaid (sic) £4M of this. As I say, the grammar is appalling, but I think the moron is trying to convince the reader that Chanrai has a fixed and floating charge. I must admit, it is rare to see a creditor repaid 25% of a loan, but still manage to obtain further security, after a winding up petition. I love the last sentence. This was what was reported on the 20th February, in the Echo: PORTSMOUTH no longer own Fratton Park, it has been reported today. It is claimed that Balram Chainrai has written off £10m of the £17m Pompey owe him. In exchange, he has taken ownership of the ground. Mr Chainrai has leased the venue back to the club over a period of 15 years. The club will have to pay him £1m a year to rent the facility. I'd be interested in how others interpret Andrew Andronikous' gibberish...

Worth a read:

The key to your club will be "What Happens to Fratton Park?", when the assets are sold. I believe this site first pointed out that the reported asset transfer of Fratton from PCFC to Portpin would be invalid, despite all the Pompey sites and newspapers reporting that Chanrai owned Fratton because of the loan default by Falconedrone. So, it will be sold, along with all the other assets, to the highest bidder, by, IMO, a new administrator, appointed by the court. The next question will be "What will be the most profitable use of Fratton Park, when it is sold?" IMHO, its use as a football ground by a club which will continue to lose money, will not form the basis of a long term business plan. I see no sensible alternative to the sale of Fratton Park for redevelopment, maximising the return for the creditors of PCFC (whoever they turn out to be). Groundsharing would make the most sense for the 10-12,000 fans that will watch a Championship club spending a season being relegated to the first division, while funds are raised for the construction of a new stadium, a la Brighton. A 25-30,000 seater is the minimum for an aspiring Championship club that Portsmouth, at best, will be in two seasons. Too many heartless property developers have Fratton Park surrounded. Anyone that profits from the sale of landmines to Angola, are hardly likely to show any affection for the dump that Fratton Park has become, despite the romance of an FA Cup run financed by the taxpayer...

...seem to come in two flavours on this site. Last of the Summer Wine Usually post in glowing terms about days gone by, trying hard to recapture the glory days, back in the mother country. About as entertaining to read as the TV show of the same name, and also about as relevant, to the fans streaming into St. Marys nowadays. Keep it up guys, I think you know who you are, but don't blame me if I think of Compo, when I read your posts. Let's face it, nostalgia is not what it used to be. Last of the Scummer Whine Usually post in negative terms about anything related to the club, city or the country. In the early stages of going native, so not reached that grumpy charm that Compo has. More the expression that the club, city or country they left behind didn't quite fit their ideals, those that served them so badly when they lived here. Zero entertainment value in their posts at the moment and the only relevance to the fan of today is the possiblity that more impressionable section of our fanbase may detect a slight lowering of their moral, when reading them. I think of Lord Haw Haw when reading the uninformed dirge they post. He was hanged for treason, but I think the penalty for them, when Saints are back in the premiership will be the sight of their gradual decline into a sad exile, never quite belonging to their new country and unable to return to God's country to see their team play...

I can't say the thought of Daniel Azougy suing me for posting that he is a convicted fraudster fills me with any great fear, nor the prospect of Marc Jacob issuing a writ because we have speculated that he was fired by his law firm for improper conduct.

I'm assuming that solicitors are afforded more protection under our libel laws than the rest of us peasants?

Corp, I'd read the following two quotes and learn. I know you might think you have developed some degree of intellect, posting on your Pompey site, but mate, you've come from "Are You Smarter Than a 10 Year Old" to "University Challenge". Keep posting, though. Your posts have that window-licking quality you only get from years of inbreeding, on Portsea Island...

This is what you "pointed out" to me and it does make you look like a bit of a tw @t now, doesn't it? Just for the people interested in what the clueless bunch you have on your site, here's a sample of their thinking, prior to the court hearing: 22-02-2010, 11:39 AM ..and finally from the banned list: GuidedMissile - purely for being a scummer on a wind up. :smt022

Sam Hammam is, IMO an odious piece of work. For those interested in the history of Wimbledon FC and a study on how to screw a football club, this article by David Conn is a good read: In 1988, Hammam applied for, and was granted, outline planning permission by the London Borough of Merton to move Wimbledon from their Plough Lane ground to a new stadium in the Wandle Valley. But Hammam did not proceed with a planning agreement which required him to make improvements to the area, and the plan died. Plough Lane was subject to a restriction imposed by the council that it should always be used for sport or recreation. In 1990, Hammam bought out this covenant, leaving Plough Lane free for development, reportedly for between £300,000 and £800,000. The following year the club moved to share Selhurst Park with Crystal Palace and have been stuck there, homeless, ever since. Hammam himself, rather than the club, owned Plough Lane, via his holding company, Rudgwick Limited, which charged Wimbledon rent. Rudgwick, which is registered at the London offices of Kennedys solicitors, is wholly owned by Sam Hammam; he and his brother Nijad are the sole directors. In 1998, he sold Plough Lane to Safeway for a price reported to be £8m – the Rudgwick accounts for that year show a £5m profit on the sale of a property. Then, in 1997, Hammam sold 80 per cent of the club shares – which he held via a company registered in the British Virgin Islands, for a reported £28m to the Norwegians Kjell Rokke and Bjorn Gjelsten. He sold the rest for a reported £1.2m three years later. His fortune from the former Fourth Division club: around £36m.

...and not, not nont, you nonce...

See above...

The failure of Chanrai/Portpin to appoint Vantis, says everything you need to know about the administration...

The game they are trying to play, is their game, not the one HMRC are playing. It's not really about who is the administrator but whether Chanrai/Portpin are secured creditors and rank ahead of HMRC, IMO. Any play by PCFC to avoid that question being answered by letting the administrator to fall on his sword, will fail. That question and the general ownership, creditor and movement of funds "mysteries" need solving in court...

If the appointment of the administrators is invalid, it is because Chanrai/Portpin are not creditors. So....as soon as the court appointed receiver takes a look at the situation, he will ask, "Is there enough funds for PCFC to continue as a going concern?" The £15M that Chanrai is supposed to be putting into the pot will do a Lord Lucan. What shareholder, in there right mind, would spunk £15M, knowing that they are not a secured creditor and stand little prospect of getting any of it back, unless a total mug buyer is found for a club, with an unknown points deduction coming to it? The only possible deal for PCFC is one that is good for the money launderers and that ain't going to happen. HMRC is on their case...