Guided Missile

Unfortunately I had to read that quoted post and it simply confirmed why "Badger" is on my ignore list. However, when I had stopped laughing, I thought I'd at least post a response, since I'm currently full of Xmas cheer. As this thread is about the EU and apparently we couldn't win a war without help from an international alliance, I thought I'd consider the situation we find ourselves, in our new reality. Now, I think it is safe to say that the only significant threat to Europe comes from the Salisbury poisoners, Russia, out of the list Badger provided us, leaving us with the Germans, Austrians, French, Italians and Americans on our side. After the EU response to the Russian annexation of the Crimea, six years ago, that former communist and Stasi member, Merkel, responded by signing a gas supply agreement with Russia, on behalf of Germany. When Russia marches into the Ukraine, who will that wannabe EU nation turn to and more importantly, who will Poland, Hungary and Romania turn to? I think the sight of the Germans, armed with broom handles, shouting bang-bang, will not frighten too many Russian tank commanders. We are then left with the Austrians, French, Italians and Americans. Now I'm going to start laughing again, because if we are talking about the broad sweep of history over the past two centuries, I think we can discount the French and Italians, as far as providing determined resistance to the advancing Russians. So, even with the decrepit Biden in the White House, like Roosevelt before him, America would side with us, after letting us defend Europe on our own for the first couple of years. The Irish will take the side of our opponent, Putin, as they normally do in a war and the Swiss and Swedes will figure out how much money they can make out of holding our coats. Personally I'd let the EU defend themselves, as they are not too keen on paying anything towards NATO, and watch the fun from the touchlines. Our forces will be too busy protecting our fishing waters, anyway...

At time like this, after the majority of voters of all political parties, supported exiting the EU, in a referendum, it is our duty to ensure that the Government, whatever it's political colour, is supported by everyone, in its negotiations with those that wish to do this country down. Anyone that doesn't is, in my book, a traitor. What you will find in the coming days, that, wherever we end up with in terms of an agreement, as long as the will of the people has been respected, that agreement will receive cross party support. Now go and troll someone else, traitor-boy or move to an EU country.

Forgive me, but you're the one that doesn't make any sense. What sums me up to a tee is "A patriot can criticise his country, stay with it, and goes through the democratic process." You might remember that we participated in a "democratic process" in respect to exiting the EU and having gone through that "democratic process". I, like many others are "staying with it". Too many liberals and socialists like to spend our tax money, while trying to subvert our democratic will, much like the EU. Just ask poor tiny Greece about playground bullies, who are our real enemies. Anyway, you, and many like you, will be left in the dust, while inevitably there will be cross party support for whatever, if anything, Boris extracts from the EU. Like the Liberal Democrats "Bollocks to Brexit" election slogan, your whining will look as out of touch with the majority of the voters in the country and you'll resort, like the rest of the traitors on this thread, to empty insults as our country rapidly grows and our early approval of the vaccine, unlike the European Medicines Agency, saves lives and businesses. Boris continues to play a blinder...

Just to help readers understand your crassness: Cheap Patriotism? In the liberation of Europe there were 384,000 soldiers killed in combat and a civilian death toll of 70,000, largely due to German bombing raids during the Blitz: 40,000 civilians died in the seven-month period between September 1940 and May 1941, almost half of them in London. "Jingoism? is (EU) nationalism in the form of aggressive and proactive foreign policy, such as a country (EU) 's advocacy for the use of threats or actual force, as opposed to peaceful relations, in efforts to safeguard what it perceives as its national (EU) interests."

I see all the traitors are out in force.

Thankfully, this thread will end on January 1st, 2021. I, for one, will be celebrating the fact that, like many of our brave soldiers, landing on the beaches on D-Day to help liberate France and the rest of Europe, we will be going in the opposite direction to liberate Britain. The EU is a dangerous organisation, changed beyond recognition from the European Economic Community that was formed by the Treaty of Rome. The "Economic" part of the description was dropped in 1993, because the original concept always was a political union, that was soon to be dominated by Germany. Post WWII and the Potsdam Agreement, they were prevented from dominating continents by force, as they and France had tried to, on and off, for the previous two centuries. There was one country they could never dominate and as the supplicant ex-communist countries, the populations of which were used to being ruled by unelected bureaucrats, were drawn into the EU, that country has said no more. The trade agreement negotiations are just a chance for a tin-pot French president with a Napoleon complex and an East-German, ex-Stasi member, to try and give Britain a kicking, before we finally leave their rotting and corrupt bloc. A trade deal may be nice, but it shrinks into a pointless piece of paper when we start reforming the rules that govern our trade, taxes and state aid. More importantly, we will be given an opportunity to again demonstrate why we are the shining beacon of democracy and innovation that we have been over the last two centuries, when we weren't defeating unelected French and German dictatorships. As we leave the EU at midnight, on the 31st December, 2020, I will be turning round and giving the time-honoured "V-sign" to the EU and will enjoy the challenges we will face up to, in 2021. What I will be most looking forward to in 2021, is returning to Europe to watch the Saints in the Champions League, carrying a blue passport and a red and white scarf.

We leave on January 1st, 2021, mate. We've had 4 years to see that the EU really only wanted to inflict a punishment beating on us. Germany printing money to feed to bankrupt countries to buy their goods. That's the reality.

I don't know how he managed to keep his sense of humour. Who do these unelected, no-mark, arrogant, sniffy bureaucrats think they are? I can tell you who they aren't. Democratically elected representatives of the 5th largest economy in the world, that who. A country that used its democratic right, to vote to leave their protectionist club to strike out on its own. Boris is our PM and I'll bet that the majority of the country is behind him all the way. Imagine if we had a referendum to re-join the EU? I bet a pound to a pinch of shit it would be a landslide to stay on the side line and watch the EU go the way of the USSR. In fact, I will particularly enjoy watching Ireland economy go down the shitter and Italy shaft Germany big time.

We're looking for a trade deal, not to become a member.

It is not for the EU to extend the current fisheries policy. We have to agree to it. I'd tell Macron to fuck off. Meanwhile, as of today, the UK has arranged FTAs with almost 60 countries and we have fisheries agreements in place with Norway and Iceland, which incidentally involve the annual discussions which are so difficult for the EU, even though fishing is much more important to these two countries than to the EU. I wonder what proportion of the population of the UK just wants to leave this EU prison? Even most of the so-called remainers, I would imagine, now that the EU 27 are resorting to German led bullying. Still the Germans have form, don't they?

2 tickets for the Sheffield United game. Only drawback is the missus wants to come. Still at least I'll be 2 metres away from her. Won't have to listen to the normal irrelevant non-football comments during the game.

The original quote from Super Uwe that I was replying to, mentioned country, as in: I am not sure any of our politicians have grasped how much difference being a third country outside the SM and CU will be in terms of customs checks, paperwork, border delays etc. Too late now though, unless there is some epic caving in or fudge agreed. Then you stuck your ill-informed oar in, with a post which I should have ignored. Now, go and have lie down in a dark room and reflect on your behaviour. Don't worry, I don't need an apology, just the hope that you will learn some respect for your intellectual superiors.

I think the confusion in the matter of global trade has been caused by the EU considering itself to be a country, rather than primarily a trading block. Their confusion extends to the power they think they are owed over our laws and fishing waters. Europe has always been the land of tinpot dictators. Jeez, it was only in 1975 that Spain was a fascist dictatorship. Go back a little way to 1940 and Pétain was granted essentially dictatorial powers over France by the National Assembly, after rolling over to Hitler, while Britain fought tooth and nail. Meanwhile, Ireland and Sweden essentially collaborated with the Nazi's. No, there are those in this country that can see the EU experiment, with the benefit of a wider historical perspective and can recognise newly jumped up, unelected no-marks for what they are. Unelected. Now is the time for Britain, as it always has, to put these dangerous people back in their boxes. We're the cradle of democracy and law, FFS.

You think the EU is a country. Bless... The US is our biggest export market, there is no doubt about that. I'm not sure how our exports to trading blocks like the EU and NAFTA compare, but my guess is that the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP), made up of 10 Southeast Asian countries, in addition to South Korea, China, Japan, Australia and New Zealand may well be our biggest export market in the future and last time I looked, none of them were demanding access to our waters or level playing fields.

I expect they think it is going to be similar to trading with our largest export partner, the US.

It's the life we are all leading under lockdown, you total muppet. Why else would I be replying to a zero like you? Even that level of social interaction is better than shouting at my dog...

"Incontinence pants" more like...

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So, you're saying there was a voter fraud?

There was no voter fraud, just a response to the behaviour of an egotist that proved deeply unpopular with many US voters. What has proved popular is the policies for which Trumpian Republican party stood. When the Covid tide retreats and we have 4 years to reflect on both the achievements of the Trump Presidency and the failure of an impotent Democratic party controlling a senile President, but not the Senate, to get anything meaningful done, we will see Conservatism triumph again. Firstly it will happen in a revitalised Britain, free of the EU shackles and with Corbyn's style of Socialism finally dead and buried. Then Trump will become the kingmaker in the Republican party, anointing a more media friendly candidate to initiate a UK/US alliance that will finally dominate the West for decade to come. We are about to enter a golden age of freedom from wokeism and socialist interference with personal liberty. Rejoice, for the battle was lost but the war will be won.

So, a very strange news item about Prince William testing positive for covid 19. He didn't tell anyone because he didn't want anyone to worry? Well, I've heard from two sources that he's been a naughty husband, if you know what I mean. Track and trace would have exposed with whom he's alleged to be naughty with, wouldn't it? I wonder when the story will break?

Boris playing a blinder.

I think you got that wrong. What you should have said is that "...sexual abuse is viewed less harshly by Liberals in this country." An example of this, is detailed in this local news article.

Trump playing a blinder...

US President Donald Trump has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize. Norwegian far-Right politician Christian Tybring-Gjedde made the nomination following a “historic peace agreement” between the United Arab Emirates and Israel. The leader also praised Mr Trump for resolving other protracted conflicts worldwide and said he has made "tremendous efforts" in brokering peace. “For his merit, I think he has done more trying to create peace between nations than most other Peace Prize nominees,” Mr Tybring-Gjedde told Fox News.