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Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
I drive a big f*** off Range Rover around town, because it's safer for me and my passengers (especially when I've been drinking) and is good for intimidating other drivers. For long runs, I prefer my SL, because it's fast and very stable at speeds over 100 MPH. I like long haul holidays, particularly when the weather's sh !t in the UK and like going back to the US, where people are not total pussies like most of the people on this thread (yes, I'm talking about you, Bexy). I buy sh !t I don't need like most people, but don't really lose any sleep about it, because my house is so f*** ing big, I can hoard everything I own. I really doubt that my actions will really cause anyone any pain, but hey, apart from the odd drink driving, last time I looked, excessive consumption is what this economy needs. In a hundred years, we will all be dead, and I don't give a sh !t about my great grandchildren, anyway. Their lives will be a f*** sight better, than the start I had in life, when they inherit the fortune I made polluting the planet.... -
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Not realizing how f*cked I am, is exactly the reason I have got this far. -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Meanwhile.... "...they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." -
Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
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Physics has nothing to do with climate science...? Bucky, you're a moron.... -
Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Read more here... The guys a wacko and you obviously haven't a clue. -
Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
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Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
And for my last post on this thread, I will borrow a quotation from Professor Happer's paper, which, I think, is apt: -
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Sorry about that, always tough cutting and pasting small fonts from a pdf. Try the google option if you really want to destroy the science they contain. I've read a few of them and it is interesting stuff... -
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Frank, as usual, your rambling post is so illiterate and the spelling and grammar so poor, that I haven't got a clue as to whether you are insulting me, the Chinese or it is just an ironic post claiming I have a limited intellect, while demonstrating the extremely limited extent of your own... -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Wipe the dribble from your lips and read the link again. It actually concerns a paper by Prof. William Happer, a professor of physics at Princeton, which you can read here and a response to this paper from your hero, Michael McCrackpot which you can read here. The link walks you through what a poor grasp of physics and chemistry many of your "climate experts" have, but their entrenched positions are understandable. Happer's job at Princeton relies on him being a world class theoretical physicist and McCrackpot's job largely relies on there being man made climate change. ...and your post? Try harder and read things more carefully. You let me down, you let this website down, but more importantly, you let yourself down... -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
...and a far more credible rebuttal to your rebuttal here... -
Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
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Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Not only am I a f*** sight smarter than the PhD's working for me, I am also a f*** sight smarter than you, Hokie Kokie. You see, this isn't a f***ing peer reviewed paper, publishing research findings, but a review of peer reviewed papers, publishing research findings. As such, you could publish it in Popular Mechanics and it would be just as credible, because it depends on the quality of the research papers it is reviewing. These happen to be the research papers reviewed: 1. Robinson, A. B.,Baliunas, S. L., Soon, W., and Robinson, Z. W. (1999 Journal of American Phy-sicians and Surgeons 3, 171-178. 2. Soon, W.,Baliunas, S. L., Rob inson, A. B., and Robinson, Z. W. (1999) Cli mate Res. 13, 149-164. 3. Keigwin, L. D. (1996) Sci ence 274, 1504-1508. ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_au thor/keigwin1996/ 4. Oerlemanns, J. (2005) Sci ence 308, 675-677. 5. Oerlemanns, J., Björnsson, H., Kuhn, M., Obleitner, F., Palsson, F., Smeets, C. J. P. P., Vugts, H. 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Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
I acknowledge that there is an extremely small contribution by the human race to climate change. 100% I believe that the evidence exists right now. 100% I believe that the contribution now and in the foreseeable future is insignificant and will thus not adversely affect our climate. 100% I believe that the response to this insignificant contribution, caused by the environmental lobby, if taken seriously by government will cause the human race economic and social problems. 100% I believe that the world governments will unwind the burden imposed on the electorate, by this unelected faction, starting with Japan, then the UK, then the rest of the world. (China and Russia never really bought into it) 100% I hope Russia will jail the rest of Greenpeace and then start on Friends of the Earth. 100% -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Why? I'm a f*** sight smarter than them. -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Funny you should say that. I have a few PhD chemists working for me at the moment. I must admit, they're sh !t hot at "stirring bulk chemicals with a stick". -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Ask me in another 2-300 years, when there may be enough evidence to prove that the slight increase in the earth's temperature is due to an increase in anthropogenic CO2 or a natural variation in solar radiation. I would put a million pound on the latter, but then, I have only got a degree in chemistry, so what the f*** do I know. To be honest, I'm still laughing about that Youtube clip... -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
A certified accountant with a degree in chemistry from St. Andrews versus a certified crackpot with a degree in healthy eating advice from the University of Youtube.... -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
That's about as factual as everything else you've quoted. Professor Nick Hewitt? Premier League? You're having a laugh... -
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Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
I assume "intellectual pygmy" is OK... -
Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
The Cooling World Newsweek, April 28, 1975 There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon. The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states. To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.” A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972. To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City. Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.” Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies. “The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines. Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality. —PETER GWYNNE with bureau report :lol::lol: -
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...and you've got this nutter: No wonder you deleted references to him from your post. "Chemistry World?" You really are an intellectual pygmy, who prefers this guys opinion to Edward Teller, a scientist whose arse you're not fit to wipe... -
"RB" has, after nearly losing his shirt at the Rose Bowl, already been bailed out of his egotistical folly, by the taxpayers of Eastleigh. With the Rose /Ageas Bowl losing money hand over fist, it beggars belief that Keith House didn't want Southampton Football Club any where near Eastleigh, but preferred the financial model that is county cricket. Cricket ground? This is a cricket ground...
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Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Guided Missile replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
Einstein's dead, so I guess there goes the Theory of Relativity. You really are a muppet.... ....and latest developments??? Give me a break. You obviously didn't read this paper, since which, nothing of note has happened, apart from billions of tax dollars being p! $$ed away on meaningless research. Still, I have a feeling that you have made your mind up on this issue, so you carry on and keep worrying. Luckily the penny has dropped at number 10. -
The Co-op bank have funded the hotel build at the Ageas bowl. The developer, Denizen, has gone into administration and work on the £28m development has stopped. Completion on budget relies on another developer taking up the contract and the Co-op bank or someone else financing the rest of the build. My gut feel is that none of the supposedly 8 developers willing to jump into Denizens shoes, will do it for anything like the original build cost. I also think Co-op bank is in no position to extend/increase the funding for this project. I am also suspicious that, with no sane bank on earth willing to finance a hotel to supply the 3 men and his dog who want to stay in a hotel in West End to watch cricket, the additional cost of the completion will fall onto the Eastleigh taxpayers. I would also like to know, as a Co-op member, what Rev. Paul Flowers role was in approving this loan and whether it relied on his prior contacts with Eastleigh Borough Council.