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Just watching SSN getting moist as deadline day is at last here - seems clubs like Palace and Everton have turned every sofa upside down and Money is falling out, and they are hell bent of buying all sorts of odds and sods like a kid who has found a fiver in the street and run into Mrs Miggins Sweetie Emporium, obviously the Palace pockets are bulging with Wan-Bisaka money.

Couldn't quite work out if Zaha is going for £100m!!! If he does go for that then Football has indeed become an obscene farce.

 

Sideshow Bob - Chelsea to Arsenal...............Weird!

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Just bring in a couple of players of quality. Kat decimated us but clearly sold us a lie. He’s no interest in the club. If he wanted to hold on to his investment you would think he would put some of the television money into the bloody club because you can’t say we don’t need it. I can only comment on how the media has been done since Gao’s arrival and the club has been very disingenuous and missed fans. He had a mess to sort out but he hasn’t done a great deal other than remove people. Recent management changes aren’t reported much. If he made some sort of statement to the fan it would be a bonus but I find the lack of communication contemptuous. Most fans I know aren’t overly happy with Gao so you’re contrary to the opinion of those regarding our ownership. Still, opinions vary.

 

Put some of the television money? ALL OF THE TELEVISION MONEY IS ALREADY BEING SPENT! How do you think we can pay Forster and Austin millions a year to do nothing without going bankrupt? Other clubs with similar revenue can afford to spend more than us because they don't have their income tied up on worthless crap the way we do. He has no interest in the club? You know that how? At least he bought the club himself so he must have some interest, he could have just spent the money on hookers and cocaine instead. Hasn't done a great deal? Krueger, Reed and Hughes are gone Hasenhüttl is here, we won't know how good the people now making the decisions are for a few seasons yet (Cortese was removed in Jan 2014 but it was only some 3 years later that the consequences became clear) and sorting out the mess in the playing squad is going to take time until contracts start running out, it's not like we haven't tried getting rid of them but no one will pay what we are paying so they refuse to leave and we are stuck with them. Hasn't said much? Krueger had a lot to say, can't say I miss it. Actions speak louder than words, if the club starts being run like it was between July 2009 and Jan 2014 again I don't care if I never hear a word from him.

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Put some of the television money? ALL OF THE TELEVISION MONEY IS ALREADY BEING SPENT! How do you think we can pay Forster and Austin millions a year to do nothing without going bankrupt? Other clubs with similar revenue can afford to spend more than us because they don't have their income tied up on worthless crap the way we do. He has no interest in the club? You know that how? At least he bought the club himself so he must have some interest, he could have just spent the money on hookers and cocaine instead. Hasn't done a great deal? Krueger, Reed and Hughes are gone Hasenhüttl is here, we won't know how good the people now making the decisions are for a few seasons yet (Cortese was removed in Jan 2014 but it was only some 3 years later that the consequences became clear) and sorting out the mess in the playing squad is going to take time until contracts start running out, it's not like we haven't tried getting rid of them but no one will pay what we are paying so they refuse to leave and we are stuck with them. Hasn't said much? Krueger had a lot to say, can't say I miss it. Actions speak louder than words, if the club starts being run like it was between July 2009 and Jan 2014 again I don't care if I never hear a word from him.

 

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Getting more in isn't important to me. Getting more out is. The squad is too bloated for the training /coaching I believe RH wants. This site is obsessed with wanting a new CB but maybe Vestergaard, Yosh and Bednarek properly coached are adequate and that leaves Hoedt and Stepehns on the bench. Surely only the top six are better off.

 

Maybe in terms of quantity of player, but of the five CBs we have there are two that I don't want to see on the pitch at any time. God help us if they play together again.

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Put some of the television money? ALL OF THE TELEVISION MONEY IS ALREADY BEING SPENT! How do you think we can pay Forster and Austin millions a year to do nothing without going bankrupt? Other clubs with similar revenue can afford to spend more than us because they don't have their income tied up on worthless crap the way we do. He has no interest in the club? You know that how? At least he bought the club himself so he must have some interest, he could have just spent the money on hookers and cocaine instead. Hasn't done a great deal? Krueger, Reed and Hughes are gone Hasenhüttl is here, we won't know how good the people now making the decisions are for a few seasons yet (Cortese was removed in Jan 2014 but it was only some 3 years later that the consequences became clear) and sorting out the mess in the playing squad is going to take time until contracts start running out, it's not like we haven't tried getting rid of them but no one will pay what we are paying so they refuse to leave and we are stuck with them. Hasn't said much? Krueger had a lot to say, can't say I miss it. Actions speak louder than words, if the club starts being run like it was between July 2009 and Jan 2014 again I don't care if I never hear a word from him.
Since Ralph ahs come here,

 

Gabbi

Davis

Clasie

Sims

Targett

Gallagher

 

Have all gone

 

What is happening now is more of the same. There is a reason why we usually win the net spend trophy!

 

Other clubs (like very other season) pay wages (higher wages in most cases) and buy players above our ridiculous threshold.

 

We may as well go down as if we cannot compete with Leicester and Bournemouth in the transfer market, what is the point.

 

What is more tragic, we have a brilliant manager and he gets two new players over two windows. Very poor

The list above does not take into account the outward loans in Jan with a view to bring in a player for Ralph.

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Since Ralph ahs come here,

 

Gabbi

Davis

Clasie

Sims

Targett

Gallagher

 

Have all gone

 

What is happening now is more of the same. There is a reason why we usually win the net spend trophy!

 

Other clubs (like very other season) pay wages (higher wages in most cases) and buy players above our ridiculous threshold.

 

We may as well go down as if we cannot compete with Leicester and Bournemouth in the transfer market, what is the point.

 

What is more tragic, we have a brilliant manager and he gets two new players over two windows. Very poor

The list above does not take into account the outward loans in Jan with a view to bring in a player for Ralph.

 

Difference is they have ownership with money to spend.

Why go down do you think we could compete with some of the clubs spending down there with our wage bill it would be financially crippling.

If we cannot shift players now how would we there?

 

 

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Difference is they have ownership with money to spend.

Why go down do you think we could compete with some of the clubs spending down there with our wage bill it would be financially crippling.

If we cannot shift players now how would we there?

 

 

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it was a flippant point about going down.

Look at newcastle. Continued mass-protests against Ashley, yet they routine spend more than us, despite having the so-called tightest chairman/owner in the league

Our fans will just clap politely and point out we have to pay agent fees etc

 

But in reality we will go down very soon if every year, the list of sides we financially compete against gets smaller.

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it was a flippant point about going down.

Look at newcastle. Continued mass-protests against Ashley, yet they routine spend more than us, despite having the so-called tightest chairman/owner in the league

Our fans will just clap politely and point out we have to pay agent fees etc

 

But in reality we will go down very soon if every year, the list of sides we financially compete against gets smaller.

 

This - someone actually talking sense. Our fanbase continues to defend the owners. Didn't spend it Jan and all the Gao lovers professed it was because we would spend big in the summer..... Hassenhutl seemed pretty sure at the fans forum that we would sig ln more players. He openly said he cant play his favoured formation as we didn't have the right players ( basically meaning the defenders in situ are not good enough) and it is looking likely after a whole summer window that he will still need to play 5 at the back. Let's see how long the gaffer hangs around if promises are broken. Let's hope for a good deadline day or I fear things may start to unravel

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it was a flippant point about going down.

Look at newcastle. Continued mass-protests against Ashley, yet they routine spend more than us, despite having the so-called tightest chairman/owner in the league

Our fans will just clap politely and point out we have to pay agent fees etc

 

But in reality we will go down very soon if every year, the list of sides we financially compete against gets smaller.

 

Newcastle do not routinely spend more than us. Somewhat undermines your argument. We will also come nowhere near winning the mythical “net spend” trophy.

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Since Ralph ahs come here,

 

Gabbi

Davis

Clasie

Sims

Targett

Gallagher

 

Have all gone

 

What is happening now is more of the same. There is a reason why we usually win the net spend trophy!

 

Other clubs (like very other season) pay wages (higher wages in most cases) and buy players above our ridiculous threshold.

 

We may as well go down as if we cannot compete with Leicester and Bournemouth in the transfer market, what is the point.

 

What is more tragic, we have a brilliant manager and he gets two new players over two windows. Very poor

The list above does not take into account the outward loans in Jan with a view to bring in a player for Ralph.

 

Difference is they have ownership with money to spend.

Why go down do you think we could compete with some of the clubs spending down there with our wage bill it would be financially crippling.

If we cannot shift players now how would we there?

 

 

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This - someone actually talking sense. Our fanbase continues to defend the owners. Didn't spend it Jan and all the Gao lovers professed it was because we would spend big in the summer..... Hassenhutl seemed pretty sure at the fans forum that we would sig ln more players. He openly said he cant play his favoured formation as we didn't have the right players ( basically meaning the defenders in situ are not good enough) and it is looking likely after a whole summer window that he will still need to play 5 at the back. Let's see how long the gaffer hangs around if promises are broken. Let's hope for a good deadline day or I fear things may start to unravel

 

So what do you suggest are you and Batman organising the March or buying tickets to the next fans forum to tell them?

No shirts, squad numbers, I don’t have my season ticket yet, a sponsor that is hardly credible, no defensive recruitment , worst shirt ever....I haven’t seen many defend the owners but what do you suggest we do I’m behind you with my torch.

 

 

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So what do you suggest are you and Batman organising the March or buying tickets to the next fans forum to tell them?

No shirts, squad numbers, I don’t have my season ticket yet, a sponsor that is hardly credible, no defensive recruitment , worst shirt ever....I haven’t seen many defend the owners but what do you suggest we do I’m behind you with my torch.

 

 

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This is a forum about saints where you post opinions. It's my opinion that if we don't sign a cb this summer has essentially been a failure. I'm not going to do anything about it other than express my disappointment on here and talk to others about the situation. There isn't anything that we can do although if we get relegated I can imagine similar protests to what we had under Lowe.
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Put some of the television money? ALL OF THE TELEVISION MONEY IS ALREADY BEING SPENT! How do you think we can pay Forster and Austin millions a year to do nothing without going bankrupt? Other clubs with similar revenue can afford to spend more than us because they don't have their income tied up on worthless crap the way we do. He has no interest in the club? You know that how? At least he bought the club himself so he must have some interest, he could have just spent the money on hookers and cocaine instead. Hasn't done a great deal? Krueger, Reed and Hughes are gone Hasenhüttl is here, we won't know how good the people now making the decisions are for a few seasons yet (Cortese was removed in Jan 2014 but it was only some 3 years later that the consequences became clear) and sorting out the mess in the playing squad is going to take time until contracts start running out, it's not like we haven't tried getting rid of them but no one will pay what we are paying so they refuse to leave and we are stuck with them. Hasn't said much? Krueger had a lot to say, can't say I miss it. Actions speak louder than words, if the club starts being run like it was between July 2009 and Jan 2014 again I don't care if I never hear a word from him.

 

Wind you neck in you complete bell! We need a couple of players in the real world of lateral thinking fans and I'm sure Gao can afford it. Hey, sign no-one else and see where we end up. We need defensive steel and unless we get that, we will throw more games away stupidly. Carry on being a Gao apologist but I am not a fan of him so accept it and get over it. Until he shows some intention and commitment, or even addresses the fans, I will remain a critic. He's brought nothing to the table so far but you climb back up his a*se where it's safe and warm. There is a possibility he brought the club as a bargaining chip for acquiring real estate judging by the dockside interest and land enquiries but no-one really knows his intentions. All I know is Kat decimated all the good work her father did in a year. Seems Gao has more interest in land acquisition than football or have I missed some reassuring mission statement he shared with the fan base as to his intentions to move the club forward?! Oh!!!!! Wait. No!!!

 

Let's hope today isn't potless as we will have swapped one problem at one end of the pitch (lack of attacking prowess) for another, leaking goals at the other end and throwing away games. Sorry if that realisation scares you.

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So what do you suggest are you and Batman organising the March or buying tickets to the next fans forum to tell them?

No shirts, squad numbers, I don’t have my season ticket yet, a sponsor that is hardly credible, no defensive recruitment , worst shirt ever....I haven’t seen many defend the owners but what do you suggest we do I’m behind you with my torch.

 

 

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Totally. Most people I speak to are highly dubious and very sceptical about the way the club is being run. In fact I'd go as far as to say that no one I know is backing the owners.

 

No idea where that chap got the idea that "our fanbase continues to defend the owners" because it's not true in the slightest.

 

Fanbase does not equal a few weirdos on the internet.

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This is a forum about saints where you post opinions. It's my opinion that if we don't sign a cb this summer has essentially been a failure. I'm not going to do anything about it other than express my disappointment on here and talk to others about the situation. There isn't anything that we can do although if we get relegated I can imagine similar protests to what we had under Lowe.

 

Yep and I totally agree but there is sweet FA we can do but his opening post moaning about fans supporting board is wrong.

If we don’t get a defender in I’ll moan too...but we are paying the price for 3 years shocking decisions.

Carillo ....still winds me up

 

 

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Put some of the television money? ALL OF THE TELEVISION MONEY IS ALREADY BEING SPENT! How do you think we can pay Forster and Austin millions a year to do nothing without going bankrupt? Other clubs with similar revenue can afford to spend more than us because they don't have their income tied up on worthless crap the way we do. He has no interest in the club? You know that how? At least he bought the club himself so he must have some interest, he could have just spent the money on hookers and cocaine instead. Hasn't done a great deal? Krueger, Reed and Hughes are gone Hasenhüttl is here, we won't know how good the people now making the decisions are for a few seasons yet (Cortese was removed in Jan 2014 but it was only some 3 years later that the consequences became clear) and sorting out the mess in the playing squad is going to take time until contracts start running out, it's not like we haven't tried getting rid of them but no one will pay what we are paying so they refuse to leave and we are stuck with them. Hasn't said much? Krueger had a lot to say, can't say I miss it. Actions speak louder than words, if the club starts being run like it was between July 2009 and Jan 2014 again I don't care if I never hear a word from him.

 

Goa loves the passion. Keep it up.

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Wind you neck in you complete bell! We need a couple of players in the real world of lateral thinking fans and I'm sure Gao can afford it. Hey, sign no-one else and see where we end up. We need defensive steel and unless we get that, we will throw more games away stupidly. Carry on being a Gao apologist but I am not a fan of him so accept it and get over it. Until he shows some intention and commitment, or even addresses the fans, I will remain a critic. He's brought nothing to the table so far but you climb back up his a*se where it's safe and warm. There is a possibility he brought the club as a bargaining chip for acquiring real estate judging by the dockside interest and land enquiries but no-one really knows his intentions. All I know is Kat decimated all the good work her father did in a year. Seems Gao has more interest in land acquisition than football or have I missed some reassuring mission statement he shared with the fan base as to his intentions to move the club forward?! Oh!!!!! Wait. No!!!

 

Let's hope today isn't potless as we will have swapped one problem at one end of the pitch (lack of attacking prowess) for another, leaking goals at the other end and throwing away games. Sorry if that realisation scares you.

 

Unnecessarily abusive. He, like you, is entitled to his opinion.

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Maybe the manager has got a tune out of Hoedt and is happy with the CBs we have. Supporters always want to buy buy buy, and not work with what we have.

 

Well, that's one possibility!!

I don't thi k supporters want to buy buy buy

We have needed a CB for the last two windows

 

Going into the season once again with Stephens so close (or even in) to the team is ridiculous

 

I think the signing of Adams is very good. Unsure on Djenepo given boufal is back in the game.

 

But like signing Gunn when we had forster and Mccarthy to then appear to be limited in addressing more important areas of the pitch

 

Hey ho.

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Wind you neck in you complete bell! We need a couple of players in the real world of lateral thinking fans and I'm sure Gao can afford it. Hey, sign no-one else and see where we end up. We need defensive steel and unless we get that, we will throw more games away stupidly. Carry on being a Gao apologist but I am not a fan of him so accept it and get over it. Until he shows some intention and commitment, or even addresses the fans, I will remain a critic. He's brought nothing to the table so far but you climb back up his a*se where it's safe and warm. There is a possibility he brought the club as a bargaining chip for acquiring real estate judging by the dockside interest and land enquiries but no-one really knows his intentions. All I know is Kat decimated all the good work her father did in a year. Seems Gao has more interest in land acquisition than football or have I missed some reassuring mission statement he shared with the fan base as to his intentions to move the club forward?! Oh!!!!! Wait. No!!!

 

Let's hope today isn't potless as we will have swapped one problem at one end of the pitch (lack of attacking prowess) for another, leaking goals at the other end and throwing away games. Sorry if that realisation scares you.

 

Everything wrong about our spoiled/entitled fans right there. Someone challenges your forceful opinion and they're labelled a "complete bell". Classy. You then support you position that we should supplement our 35+ man squad (costing us six figure millions in transfer fees and about the same in wages year on year) with more players. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Then you argue that we should do that because you're "sure" (no doubt there then) that Gao can afford it. Have a little think about that - how can you be sure that he can afford it, and more to the point, as an owner of a business why should he be expected to put his hand in his pocket to buy the club (not himself) another player? What's in it for him? Will he get his money back? This naive thinking that owners can and should just put money into a club is pathetic. Of course he doesn't have to, but if he were on the fence, the current value of a lot of our recent acquisitions against the cost and wages is hardly gonna convince the fella that chucking cash at a player is a good investment for his money. We have to be run sensibly, and anyone with a modicum of sense can see that means shifting several off the books before we can spend proper money on new players.

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And the boring borong apologists pop up to moan at entitled fans for daring to be disappointed about our transfer dealings. Happens at the end of every window without fail.

"Boring apologists". Behave. The majority of people have enough sense to want more but be realistic about the mess that Les has left us in.

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And the boring borong apologists pop up to moan at entitled fans for daring to be disappointed about our transfer dealings. Happens at the end of every window without fail.

 

Why though....isn’t that the big problem?

Our recruiting has been abysmal and why now we are likely to be disappointed again

 

 

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I don't thi k supporters want to buy buy buy

We have needed a CB for the last two windows

 

Going into the season once again with Stephens so close (or even in) to the team is ridiculous

 

I think the signing of Adams is very good. Unsure on Djenepo given boufal is back in the game.

 

But like signing Gunn when we had forster and Mccarthy to then appear to be limited in addressing more important areas of the pitch

 

Hey ho.

 

Thing is we’ve signed two CBs in back to back summer windows; we just can’t afford the fees that CBs now command, not least as its now arguably the most inflated part of the market. If we’re not going to properly budget for the position, there really is no point gambling on a raw £15-20m CB and the abilities of our recruitment department.

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Thing is we’ve signed two CBs in back to back summer windows; we just can’t afford the fees that CBs now command, not least as its now arguably the most inflated part of the market. If we’re not going to properly budget for the position, there really is no point gambling on another raw £15-20m CB and the abilities of our recruitment department.

 

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Thing is we’ve signed two CBs in back to back summer windows; we just can’t afford the fees that CBs now command, not least as its now arguably the most inflated part of the market. If we’re not going to properly budget for the position, there really is no point gambling on a raw £15-20m CB and the abilities of our recruitment department.

 

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Thing is we’ve signed two CBs in back to back summer windows; we just can’t afford the fees that CBs now command, not least as its now arguably the most inflated part of the market. If we’re not going to properly budget for the position, there really is no point gambling on a raw £15-20m CB and the abilities of our recruitment department.
Does that mean we will not be signing a CB in the near future? Prices will not be dropping any time soon.

 

If one is on the cheap, the wages demanded will be higher

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And the boring borong apologists pop up to moan at entitled fans for daring to be disappointed about our transfer dealings. Happens at the end of every window without fail.

 

If I am included in a boring apologist camp, I look at things pragmatically. Shurlock's post was pretty spot on, and if we can work with what we have, maybe that is what we have to do. I take on board Batman's thoughts on Stephens, but I haven't completely written him off (yet!). It does, as mentioned, rather depends on whether the manager can get Hoedt playing. Let's not forget, that at one stage he was being picked for the Netherlands.

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Does that mean we will not be signing a CB in the near future? Prices will not be dropping any time soon.

 

If one is on the cheap, the wages demanded will be higher

 

Maybe the plan is to use Hoedt or Bertrand and Klarer if we keep Cedric to play on left with Vokins as cover coming in slowly Bertrand is good option in back 3?

 

 

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Put some of the television money? ALL OF THE TELEVISION MONEY IS ALREADY BEING SPENT! How do you think we can pay Forster and Austin millions a year to do nothing without going bankrupt? Other clubs with similar revenue can afford to spend more than us because they don't have their income tied up on worthless crap the way we do. He has no interest in the club? You know that how? At least he bought the club himself so he must have some interest, he could have just spent the money on hookers and cocaine instead. Hasn't done a great deal? Krueger, Reed and Hughes are gone Hasenhüttl is here, we won't know how good the people now making the decisions are for a few seasons yet (Cortese was removed in Jan 2014 but it was only some 3 years later that the consequences became clear) and sorting out the mess in the playing squad is going to take time until contracts start running out, it's not like we haven't tried getting rid of them but no one will pay what we are paying so they refuse to leave and we are stuck with them. Hasn't said much? Krueger had a lot to say, can't say I miss it. Actions speak louder than words, if the club starts being run like it was between July 2009 and Jan 2014 again I don't care if I never hear a word from him.
Exactly, the problem we have now is due to the bloke who is now in charge at the FA!!My god all the good the national team has done will unravel with him at the top. No doubt he is passing his coaching manual out to all at the National centre. To give multi million pound contracts to players who to the dimmest judge could see they were not worth it was madness.We are now saddled with these overpaid players who will not find another club easily, unless we pay most of the wages.
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And the boring borong apologists pop up to moan at entitled fans for daring to be disappointed about our transfer dealings. Happens at the end of every window without fail.

 

You could equally say the boring boring casual spenders moan that saints don’t do more transfer business. Happens every window without fail.

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You could equally say the boring boring casual spenders moan that saints don’t do more transfer business. Happens every window without fail.
Lol. We've needed a decent cb for three windows. Entirely predictable that certain posters call others unrealistic for hoping for the bare minimum. Watch us throw away a load of points again this season duebto this glaring and obvious weakness.
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Of we do not sign a quality CB we can only hope that Ralph has wielded his magic on Hoedt. I never thought he was horrendous, more that his decision making was. We will see. And maybe Klarer is the breakthrough player this season!

I expect Stephen's to go on loan and hope he does because that would make me feel alot easier when waiting for team lineup each game!!!

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Lol. We've needed a decent cb for three windows. Entirely predictable that certain posters call others unrealistic for hoping for the bare minimum. Watch us throw away a load of points again this season duebto this glaring and obvious weakness.

 

So we didn’t sign vestergaard last summer. Good to know.

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