Any Referees out there?

[spyinthesky]

I must admit that my understanding of the various rule changes in the game is severely restricted by ongoing age.

May I ask the new coterie of officials who may be on this forum, if they could answer a couple of questions on the rules of the game please?

1. Is there no such thing as an Indirect Free Kick in todays' game.

2. Is a Goalkeeper allowed to volley the ball forward out of hand with his feet and hands outside the penalty box?

3. Is a bounce up not allowed to be contested nowadays?

4. Assume players are not allowed to look at an opposing goalkeeper nowadays let alone put in a challenge?

5. Presumably the match officials have to check that players dont use Brylcreem or Embrocation before entering the field of play in today's game!!!

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

I must admit that my understanding of the various rule changes in the game is severely restricted by ongoing age.

May I ask the new coterie of officials who may be on this forum, if they could answer a couple of questions on the rules of the game please?

1. Is there no such thing as an Indirect Free Kick in todays' game.
 

It's becoming less common. Offences such as obstruction,  for example, are now direct free kicks. Let's not forget that we still have offsides which are an indirect kick.

2. Is a Goalkeeper allowed to volley the ball forward out of hand with his feet and hands outside the penalty box?

No, but anyone penalising something a few inches outside the box would seen as petty.

3. Is a bounce up not allowed to be contested nowadays?

No. The goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when bouncing it. 
4. Assume players are not allowed to look at an opposing goalkeeper nowadays let alone put in a challenge?

Challenging the goalkeeper went out decades ago. A lot changed when the six second rule (!) was brought in and the offence of preventing the goalkeeper releasing the ball was introduced.

5. Presumably the match officials have to check that players dont use Brylcreem or Embrocation before entering the field of play in today's game!!!

I really can't say but I know that creosote is no longer allowed on the pitch.

This is how I see things today but I haven't blown my own whistle for a long time now.

[badgerx16]

14 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

5. Presumably the match officials have to check that players dont use Brylcreem or Embrocation before entering the field of play in today's game!!!

It's to stop the players surreptitiously applying it to one side of the ball to aid in inducing reverse swing.

Edited Wednesday at 07:42 by badgerx16

[gio1saints]

Not blown a whistle a while but think Whiteys answers are all correct.

What I can tell you in my experience is that player respect for referees decisions has not been improved by the addition of VAR - nor by any grassroots appeals for “ Respect” campaigns. Quite the opposite. And it’s cascaded down to amateur football - my Hants FA ex level- in which it’s almost the norm. 

Every refs mistake is exposed in excruciating detail on the TV by the technology. Fans, players and managers alike can now slag refs off for those mistakes - and remember those mistakes knowing that video technology will back them up. The refs 1000 correct decisions before during and after are irrelevant. 
 

There’s no video technology at amateur level but supporters players and managers alike are emboldened by seeing that, yes, refs are human, and mistakes are made. 

Confidence in the decisions of grassroots referees has gone to a real low. With the drop in confidence comes a drop in respect. From fans from players from managers. It was never high let’s not kid ourselves but frankly it’s terrible nowadays. 

A guy I sent off in my last match threatened to wait behind for me after the match and beat me up. In front of everyone. Was like that’s normal. Game is fucked at grassroots. 

A lot of workplaces dealing with the public have these signs saying “ we will not tolerate any verbal or physical abuse of our staff” funny that because thats precisely what you do get as a ref on a pitch Saturdays and Sundays nowadays. 

Edited Wednesday at 14:44 by gio1saints

[Whitey Grandad]

54 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Not blown a whistle a while but think Whiteys answers are all correct.

What I can tell you in my experience is that player respect for referees decisions has not been improved by the addition of VAR - nor by any grassroots appeals for “ Respect” campaigns. Quite the opposite. And it’s cascaded down to amateur football - my Hants FA ex level- in which it’s almost the norm. 

Every refs mistake is exposed in excruciating detail on the TV by the technology. Fans, players and managers alike can now slag refs off for those mistakes - and remember those mistakes knowing that video technology will back them up. The refs 1000 correct decisions before during and after are irrelevant. 
 

There’s no video technology at amateur level but supporters players and managers alike are emboldened by seeing that, yes, refs are human, and mistakes are made. 

Confidence in the decisions of grassroots referees has gone to a real low. With the drop in confidence comes a drop in respect. From fans from players from managers. It was never high let’s not kid ourselves but frankly it’s terrible nowadays. 

A guy I sent off in my last match threatened to wait behind for me after the match and beat me up. In front of everyone. Was like that’s normal. Game is fucked at grassroots. 

A lot of workplaces dealing with the public have these signs saying “ we will not tolerate any verbal or physical abuse of our staff” funny that because thats precisely what you do get as a ref on a pitch Saturdays and Sundays nowadays. 

I've talked to people who think that having a good at the ref from the sidelines is all 'part of the fun'.

[spyinthesky]

1 hour ago, gio1saints said:

Not blown a whistle a while but think Whiteys answers are all correct.

What I can tell you in my experience is that player respect for referees decisions has not been improved by the addition of VAR - nor by any grassroots appeals for “ Respect” campaigns. Quite the opposite. And it’s cascaded down to amateur football - my Hants FA ex level- in which it’s almost the norm. 

Every refs mistake is exposed in excruciating detail on the TV by the technology. Fans, players and managers alike can now slag refs off for those mistakes - and remember those mistakes knowing that video technology will back them up. The refs 1000 correct decisions before during and after are irrelevant. 
 

There’s no video technology at amateur level but supporters players and managers alike are emboldened by seeing that, yes, refs are human, and mistakes are made. 

Confidence in the decisions of grassroots referees has gone to a real low. With the drop in confidence comes a drop in respect. From fans from players from managers. It was never high let’s not kid ourselves but frankly it’s terrible nowadays. 

A guy I sent off in my last match threatened to wait behind for me after the match and beat me up. In front of everyone. Was like that’s normal. Game is fucked at grassroots. 

A lot of workplaces dealing with the public have these signs saying “ we will not tolerate any verbal or physical abuse of our staff” funny that because thats precisely what you do get as a ref on a pitch Saturdays and Sundays nowadays. 

I was involved at a decent local level for many years as a player, clubman and occasional official.
Latter years were spent watching my lad play Junior football.
In more than one game, I witnessed Managers of Tyro Teams swearing at their players and encouraging them to injure better players of opposing teams.
Very few of the Managers had little understanding of the rules of the game.
The worst though were some of the women on the line who had zero understanding.
One even had camped on the line I was running and refused to move her push chair and two young kids away from the edge of the pitch which meant I had to run round her up and down the line to keep in touch with play.
The worst memory I had was watching my lad play in an U12 game.
The opposing centre forward, quite a strapping lad, landed a full right hander on one of our defenders putting him on the deck with a bloody nose and cut lip.
Ironically both players were sent off by the young trainee Ref as I think he had been intimidated by the opposing teams supporters.
Our player was led off in tears to have the flow of blood stemmed whist the opponent swaggered off to be embraced by, presumably, his family on the sidelines.
Trying to get volunteers to turn up and officiate at local League level nowadays must be a hell of a challenge with behaviour levels on and off the field declining rapidly.

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

I was involved at a decent local level for many years as a player, clubman and occasional official.
Latter years were spent watching my lad play Junior football.
In more than one game, I witnessed Managers of Tyro Teams swearing at their players and encouraging them to injure better players of opposing teams.
Very few of the Managers had little understanding of the rules of the game.
The worst though were some of the women on the line who had zero understanding.
One even had camped on the line I was running and refused to move her push chair and two young kids away from the edge of the pitch which meant I had to run round her up and down the line to keep in touch with play.
The worst memory I had was watching my lad play in an U12 game.
The opposing centre forward, quite a strapping lad, landed a full right hander on one of our defenders putting him on the deck with a bloody nose and cut lip.
Ironically both players were sent off by the young trainee Ref as I think he had been intimidated by the opposing teams supporters.
Our player was led off in tears to have the flow of blood stemmed whist the opponent swaggered off to be embraced by, presumably, his family on the sidelines.
Trying to get volunteers to turn up and officiate at local League level nowadays must be a hell of a challenge with behaviour levels on and off the field declining rapidly.

And it's getting steadily worse. They see Sky and others questioning every decision. They see their 'heroes' mouthing off at the officials and think it's all par for the course.

[maysie]

6 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Not blown a whistle a while but think Whiteys answers are all correct.

What I can tell you in my experience is that player respect for referees decisions has not been improved by the addition of VAR - nor by any grassroots appeals for “ Respect” campaigns. Quite the opposite. And it’s cascaded down to amateur football - my Hants FA ex level- in which it’s almost the norm. 

Every refs mistake is exposed in excruciating detail on the TV by the technology. Fans, players and managers alike can now slag refs off for those mistakes - and remember those mistakes knowing that video technology will back them up. The refs 1000 correct decisions before during and after are irrelevant. 
 

There’s no video technology at amateur level but supporters players and managers alike are emboldened by seeing that, yes, refs are human, and mistakes are made. 

Confidence in the decisions of grassroots referees has gone to a real low. With the drop in confidence comes a drop in respect. From fans from players from managers. It was never high let’s not kid ourselves but frankly it’s terrible nowadays. 

A guy I sent off in my last match threatened to wait behind for me after the match and beat me up. In front of everyone. Was like that’s normal. Game is fucked at grassroots. 

A lot of workplaces dealing with the public have these signs saying “ we will not tolerate any verbal or physical abuse of our staff” funny that because thats precisely what you do get as a ref on a pitch Saturdays and Sundays nowadays. 

Maybe he has just seen your posts on here…