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Tim Burton seems to be putting his usual distinctive touch on "Alice in Wonderland":-

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=25384

 

Which includes finding employment for [yawn] Johnny Depp again. I'm not particularly down on Johnny Depp. It's just that it's so bloody obvious to pick him as the stock US actor who can put on a UK accent which the US cinema going public think is authentic. If Tim Burton wanted to be surprising, then giving someone else a go would make a change. Like an English actor..? No doubt Michael Keaton was his number two choice.

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Which includes finding employment for [yawn] Johnny Depp again. I'm not particularly down on Johnny Depp. It's just that it's so bloody obvious to pick him as the stock US actor who can put on a UK accent which the US cinema going public think is authentic. If Tim Burton wanted to be surprising, then giving someone else a go would make a change. Like an English actor..? No doubt Michael Keaton was his number two choice.

 

I agree. The Mad Hatter is Willie Wonka's clone.

 

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Wasn't the book about narcotics ??

 

Not really, as quoted in one of Carroll's Biographies...

 

There is indeed one part in the book that may describe the use of drugs: the hookah smoking Caterpillar who advises Alice to eat from the mushroom. But with the story Carroll made fun of all aspects of society, and it may be possible that he was just reflecting the age with this part (note that this chapter wasn't even part of the original story, but was added later!). In the Victorian era there were no drug laws like we know them. Opium, cocaine, and laudanum (a painkiller that contained opium) were used for medicinal purposes, and could be obtained from a pharmacist. Mind that LSD was not even invented yet!

 

So in Carroll's days it was not uncommon to experience the effect of being 'high', whether or not accidentally. However, it was definitely not Carroll's intention to write a book about drugs: he wanted to entertain a little girl whom he loved. No evidence has ever been found that linked Carroll to drug use. Even in his diaries, Carroll has never made any reference to the use of drugs.

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Everybody has seen the Disney adaptation, but a few years back I saw a TV movie version, which incidentally included a lot of CGI so that the tricks of size changes and disproportionate head to body size could be recreated [see sketches of the original Mad Hatter]. Martin Short played the Mad Hatter, and he was generally funny and, quite eccentrically, English, with a touch of unavoidable U.S. accent thrown in.

 

Here's a couple of excerpts of the Mad Hatter's Tea Party:

Part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vwi9Yn2aF4

Part 2.

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