Ex Lion Tamer

You can say that about so many things but if we didn't get promoted then it would be very bad news. We have to make sensible financial decisions and do enough to get promoted at the same time

The thing is I wonder if JWP's wages are so big, even after the relegation cut, that we may need to get him off the wage bill. With him being 29 this year and never the paciest to start with, we may take a lowish bid. £30m does sound right but if we haven't shifted him by the end of the window, who knows

Aribo and Sulemana were the failures. Edozie did what was expected of him

Is Ings really dropping down a level? Surely he's still good enough for the Prem, albeit at the bottom end

Quite often people are good at interviews but not the actual job

Seems like the agent is pushing for a move but at least the player has his head in the right place

Well keeping his options open by not signing a new contract is different to wanting out immediately

Out of interest, what made you think he wanted the move last summer? In the interviews I've read, it seems like he has no knowledge of what's going on in his contract whatsoever

I like him. Think Martin's system could suit him better

He got 8 goals and 6 assists in his last season in Scotland. Simply not enough for a player aspiring to play in the premier League, it was a woeful signing

I agree with the first part but I wonder what wage he's on and whether that influences our desire to get rid

Chin up mate, it's only July 1st. And to be honest keeping some of our existing players for the start of the season wouldn't be a terrible thing

If they have any sense they'll sell players who are of diminishing value or on big wages, but hold on to those with longer contracts and relatively lower wages to sell in January or next summer when their value will be just as high if not higher. Keeping the likes of Tino, Alcaraz or Sulemana for this season isn't writing off what they've spent, it's deferring and potentially increasing the return. Assuming their heads are in the right place - the first two at least seem like level headed types that will knuckle down for the Championship. The owners will see the sale of Lavia as vindication of their strategy. We'll certainly bring in more than we spend, but will continue to invest in promising young players to sell for a profit.

Our point of difference remains that you think £20-25m would be a fair price when I really think that's still too low when we could keep him for a season and see what his value is then

Unless we think that actually Tino isn't ever going to be the player he was and now's the time to get a quick buck

I accept that KWP, JWP, Lavia, ABK and numerous others will leave. I don't accept that we have to sell a young full back for below market value when they've got three years left on their contract, are unlikely to be on huge wages and have only just recovered from a very serious injury

Then we keep him

There's no way we should be selling for less than £35m. He's got three years left on his contract and before his injury looked like a future international / Champions League player in the making

It was this:

Remains to be seen whether we can build a team to win this league but we are going to have serious quality in certain positions if players like Tino, Alcaraz and Sulemana stay. Ridiculous quality for this level

The last time we got relegated? (if you include loans)

"All players must pass" "We keep on passing the ball"

Not really a good look to be telling the world Martin has started working for us when he's still under contract to Swansea

Because we're not in the middle of the season now?