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Many of them managed to renegotiate/reduce their debts (e.g. Lecicester)when the penalties weren't as stringent and perhaps more importantly the wider economy was a lot more buoyant. Well like most trolls he'll eventually burn himself out (problem with our resident troll is desire to pop back up under different names;))

Trust me, with regards our resident troll Sundance, 19C, Flashman, Third Bear etc etc etc, my posts were eminently sensible.:smt117 With regards selling SMS seperately, then I have always been of the view that it is totally dependent on whether or not the Football Club stays as a going concern. The value changes massively if there is no tenant willing to pay "rental income", so any deal on the stadium will be inextricably linked to to the sale (or not) of the Club. I could see it being sold to a seperate entity, but I think the decision on the future of the Club will have to come first (Is that OK for you JohnB???).

The problem I have with this Pinnacle lot is that I suspect they are not doing this from a "love of the Club" perspective, but instead from a hard nose business POV. In which case I have no doubt they are getting cold feet as I think it is understandable to be baulking at the numbers particualry those required to fund us going forward, when viewed purely as an investment opportunity. I really worry for the future of the Club as I'm not overly confident of any group coming up with the funds to acquire the Club, nor having the funds to run it going forward.

The put me on ignore;) Although that's not in the Trolling For Dummies book is it:D Just what made you choose all of your various user names???? What motivated you to send people those PM's???? Which team will you support next???? Who was your favourite team that you have supported????

Hey Troll boy, I think everyone has witnessed your own unhealthy obsession of many things on here under your various guises (19C, Sundance, Third Bear, Flashman etc etc etc). Everyone of them slightly more obsessed and rabid than their previous incarnation:D Pray tell what makes you so obsessed with trolling that you have come back under many guises??? Simple question: Why have you had so many monikers on here???

It must be very difficult rying to work out who you are going to support from one year to the next. So tell us more about your Charlton/Leeds/Basingstoke/Andover/Salisbury supporting days???????? Who did you feel the most connection to???? And just why have you felt it necessary to go through so many identities on here?????? Banned, bored or just trolling????

And of course the biggest case of mistaken identity is that you weren't Sundance, Flashman, Third Bear etc etc etc:rolleyes:;) We're all sooooooooooo confused.:smt041;)

good ole Tom had different personalities and had an interest in many clubs, which is something in common with Sundance, Nineteen, Flashman, Thrid Bear or whoever he is this month;)

Was that someone from Leeds, Charlton, Basingstoke, Andover, Salisbury , Southampton etc etc etc??? And was that when you were Sundance, Nineteen, Third Bear, Flashman etc etc etc??? No wonder you forget what you post up on here!!!!!!!!!!

Whenever there is a dark moment relating to Saints I only have ot look at that statue and I crack up:D:D It's the dimensions, the wonky hand, the size 3 football, the Milan Mandaric look alike, the mottled plinth, the whole package:smt041:smt041

Whenever you've been banned or your old user name expired you happily pop back under a new one LMFAO. I'm struggling to put all your user names to all your football teams. Sundance = closet Leeds Flashman = closet Andover Third Bear = closet Salisbury etc etc etc LOL NineSunFlashThirdTeen CanDanceBearBeastTeen uses his special football kit pack to decide who he will support this week

I was almost wetting myself when he just had to try and find something negative attached to this gesture by Crouch. And if the best he could come out with is that this gesture is actually stretching out the process and therefore Fry is billing us more:rolleyes:, then I have to say that he really is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

And before Branfoot there were those for and against Nicholl carrying on when he had some trouble with the dressing room. It's always been there. Stuff on here gets well overhyped and it's never as polarised and rabid in real life (certainly some of those on here would get some short, sharp shrift if they were like this in real life;)). And of course, get some good results and a semblence of success and the past will soon be forgotten as we're all rather fickle.

Considering that we're still on the verge of going under, I would suggest that there is quite a degree of risk attached to this money, even if it is a loan. There is a very real chance that the vast majority of this loan will never be seen again. So in that context it is a rather honourable gesture, and whilst it does not atone for the mistakes that Crouch may have made, it certainly looks like more of a gesture than either of the two other main protagonists have managed. I must have missed the many buyers all chomping at the bit and demanding that Fry gets on with it. If there were serious players out there they would have been in by now negotiating hard or even managed to gain a window of exclusivity. The idea that this loan is dragging out the process is fantasy stuff. If there is someone out there who wants to do a deal ( and has the funds to back the talk up), then they would be doing it. Fry may be many things, but the idea that he is using the Crouch money to drag out the process and earn more fees as a result is risible.

Methinks you may have missed an S off the end of member;)

You'd have no qualms going off and supporting Leeds, Charlton, Andover, Basingstoke or Salisbury;) Any others you missed telling us about LOL

My big worry as well. There is a chance to renegotiate the main debts, there is a chance to wipe out other debt, a number of high wedge contracts are coming to an end and yet we still don't look to be anywhere near a decent enough investment to the outside world. I do wonder whether the whole structure that has been set up is just unworkable outside of the top flight, regardless of what cost cutting is undertaken????

If you take Plymouth as the last game under the old regimes, then after 33 games we were 19th. Whereas in the 13 games under Pearson we were 13th, so hardly relying on other teams losing. PWDLCSFtSFAGDPtPPG 1Stoke City3316116675843+15591.79 2Watford3317881045440+14591.79 3Bristol City33161071184039+1581.76 4West Bromwich Albion321679946640+26551.72 5Charlton Athletic33141091154636+10521.58 6Ipswich Town3314910985141+10511.55 7Plymouth Argyle331310101374232+10491.48 8Burnley3212119784441+3471.47 9Hull City32121191063936+3471.47 10Crystal Palace33111396103833+5461.39 11Cardiff City32111110884240+2441.38 12Wolverhampton Wndrs3211111014133034-4441.38 13Norwich City33119139103241-9421.27 14Barnsley321010128123749-12401.25 15Sheffield United329121110123436-2391.22 16Queens Park Rangers3210913974249-7391.22 17Blackpool3391212954142-1391.18 18Coventry City31106154133446-12361.16 19Southampton3310815794255-13381.15 20Leicester City338131212123331+2371.12 21Sheffield Wednesday3195178103340-7321.03 22Preston North End3296179123140-9331.03 23Colchester United3261412154552-7321.00 24S****horpe United33710168133149-18310.94 PWDLCSFtSFAGDPtPPG 1Hull City14914532611+15282.00 2Sheffield United14833512215+7271.93 3Crystal Palace1374273209+11251.92 4Wolverhampton Wndrs14752522314+9261.86 5West Bromwich Albion14752512215+7261.86 6Preston North End14653441916+3231.64 7Stoke City13553541112-1201.54 8Sheffield Wednesday15582332115+6231.53 9Cardiff City14554551715+2201.43 10Ipswich Town13463331415-1181.38 11Queens Park Rangers14473551817+1191.36 12Bristol City134454414140161.23 13Southampton13373341417-3161.23 14Plymouth Argyle134361418180151.15 15Blackpool13364231822-4151.15 16S****horpe United13436231520-5151.15 17Leicester City1343657914-5151.15 18Coventry City154565418180171.13 19Barnsley14437471516-1151.07 20Burnley14437331626-10151.07 21Norwich City13418331718-1131.00 22Charlton Athletic13337141722-5120.92 23Watford1318437816-8110.85 24Colchester United141310121734-1760.43

We had this debate the other day and to start with I don't think anyone really knows, but I take a slightly more pessimistic view with regards the sell off prices of our "assets". Firstly with regards the player sales, then no one is going to pay much in a firesale. On top of that there is the potential for the players to claim breach of contract (f they're not paid or if the Football Club ceases to exist) and they can then walk away for nothing (and split any transfer fee with their new club!!!). As for assets, most of Staplewood is not freehold and there are many restricions on it (it cannot be developd) and the same can be said for Jackson's farm. SMS isn't worth that much and after that you really are scraping the barrel. I think the creditor's best hope of getting a return would be if a deal could be brokered taking us on as a Going Concern, not least as they could build future payments into any deal which would be payable upon promotion to the Championship and the Premier League.

“There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.”

I'm not surprised, he appears to be the forum's 92 CLUB LEADING MEMBER (only he's supported them all, not just been to their grounds;)). Must have a wardrobe full of scarves and replica kits. NineSunFlashThirdTeen CanDanceBearBeastTeen uses his special football kit pack to decide who he will support this week

You're like that bloke on the SKY advert. Oh when the Saints, Oh when the Lions, Oh when the Valiants go marching in, I want to be in that number, When United go marching in. (couldn't fit The Dragons into that one).:smt041:smt041

He's about as pro Lowe as Scooby was (in that he's actually more anti anything on here that will get a rise).

I wonder what the ratio was at Charlton, Basingstoke, Andover or Salisbury;) Who else do you support ??

LMFAO:D:rolleyes: I've been saying for a while that NineSunThirdFlashTeenDance CanBeastBearMan is not very good at remembering who he is and the ****** he has posted up on here, as he has often contradicted himself on here. Bless the poor Andover, Charlton, Leeds, Salisbury, Basingstoke, Saints (delete as applicable) fan;)