Kermitzasaint

All this topic has revealed is that some fans want to be gaslit and they will tie themselves in knots trying to gaslight others. Russell Martin isn't going to promote us. It's all excuses from him. Poch had a visible effect on us within a few weeks.

So if the fans cheered the team then the players would actually stop fannying about and actually attack at speed? Wow if only we had known that sooner.

Thats the problem. Russell Martin doesn't think he needs to learn anything more. This is what SR signed us up to.

Interesting you don't feel RM is responsible for being easily nullified when a bottom of the table coach makes a change. RM just blindly let things continue regardless leading to his own special kind of nothing football.

Nothing to do with Russell Martin? Seriously? The less RM in our style, the better and quicker we play. The more influence he has the more we slow down and return to his possession based drudgery. We have a decent squad held back by a poor coach.

Its an English channel I think. English commentary etc. God we look poor. We are so easy to play through. Can't see us keeping this up for another hour

Searched through 300 channels and finally found the game. Hopefully it was worth the effort. Its on VSport 2 if that's helpful to anyone

You consistently ignore that Martin has failed miserably at his previous clubs playing the exact same style. Whilst we seem to be getting worse, at best, Martin's style and skill still doesn't achieve anything worth committing to.

Its not experimental. He does this at all his clubs. Hence why he has never achieved anything other than aggravating supporters. I'm confused how fans claim he is likeable. Who cares if he is a nice guy or not? It's results that matter. I don't trust any decision that SR make now.

So are we still wet wipes? Are you team wet wipe? Are you finished insulting those with different options? Its so hard to keep up with your inconsistency

If only there was a way SR could have known that Russell Martin was a very poor coach. Especially considering our obsession with statistics.

I question him based on his form. You worship him based on hopes and dreams. We are not the same thankfully.

You keep acting as if Martin has never coached elsewhere. It's amusing albeit confusing. Martin is known to be flawed at his previous clubs. Those same flaws exist now with us. You claim to be reasonable whilst acting nonsensical.

Has the system worked successfully at other clubs under Martin? Thats the question imho

I agree with what you're saying but Russell Martin doesn't do defensive tactics. He never has done as said by supporters of his previous clubs. This is why he is described as infuriating. He doesn't care about the defence.

So we need the coach who was described as being infuriatingly and maddeningly stubborn and set in his ways to change. And we sought this coach out. Deliberately. He says to trust the process because better coaches can succeed. He can't improve because in his mind he is doing it the only way there is.

There are thousands of Swansea and Mk Don's fans saying 'we told you so' around the world tonight. Could see this coming and got abused for it.

A great coach improves his players. Who can improve a limited coach though? Martin is known for being hopeless defensively. We scraped through and gained points whilst playing poorly.

Interesting you mention being belittled. Pretty sure the name calling was directed at me also being accused of not understanding Martin's football style. I concentrate on his football, not all the pointless stuff around it. I don't understand the focus on his hair, his religion etc. The fawning on here is amusing but I don't call fans names. I think our squad is capable of promotion with a few additions in central defence. I don't think Martin has the skills to do it though. His interview after the game indicated he was happy with the performance and enjoyed it. Personally I don't think that's good enough and sends the wrong message to the team.

It may be fun but it's not the way to get promoted.

This is exactly the type of football Martin offers. I realise many fans get excited about him being well spoken, presentable and having a tough streak but it comes down to this every time.

Quite the opposite but you guys always need a target to vent at. I want us to do well. I find this defeat amusing more than anything. It's a pointless Cup but after everyone went silly over passing stat's from Fridays game this brings a little common sense back. You obviously have little idea what fury looks like and anyone who gets that way over football is a little sad.

Seeing as you're convinced I'm Jones, how do you explain my comments about Ralph years before I was signed by Ankerson? Just coincidence I guess. Ah yes , league 2. Damned small buttons on my phone whist being half asleep

How can this happen? I thought Martin had made us the new Man City and we would pass teams into oblivion? A league 1 team found him out already.

Right, so anyone who disagrees with you just doesn't understand. Well I guess all those who dislike this type of football must bow down to your so called superior intelligence and understanding.