Sir Ralph

Will still has installed character- when was the last time we did that. Chap has guts and determination looking forward to this season

That’s more words than usual - did you download Chat GBT this time?

Yes buddy of course. Try in engage in adult talk and that’s what you’ve got. That’s it - no intelligent response just that.. First time I have ever engaged with chat on this forum and many have absolutely no idea about commercial reality. Yet they want a seat at the table of debate.

Call them selfish whatever - they are leaving because of government policy. Significant amounts of tax revenue are no longer available. Government policy around taxing the wealthy has backfired- tell me who will make up the difference of this unnecessary political point scoring mess?

Chaps you may want to call them selfish. Three questions 1. Would you prefer they stayed and paid their significant taxes toward the public purse? 2. Why do you think they have left the uk? 3. If they were paying millions of pounds in tax already, well beyond their burden, are they selfish for getting fed up for leaving to pay zero tax elsewhere? My general observation is socialists call successful capitalists “greedy” even though they wouldn’t have a clue or the mental drive how to achieve like them.

I never ever mentioned the tories. Again I make the point if Juric said “I’m rubbish cause of Russell Martin” would that be an acceptable response. There is always context - my point to you is have labour done a good job economically regardless of any excuses to blame others? Have labours decisions been good ones economically. Please just respond to that as nobody will answer it. I’ve explained the long term damage they have created (ni increases, capital gains tax and non dom status changes) from high net worth individuals and job creators leaving and the impact on business networks.

Well done TDMickey - so far you managed 3 words - shy or stupid?

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I’ve worked with a lot of successful people and never once come across anyone with this attitude to business and economic growth. At least not anyone that would last long advising in any sort of half functional business. Also business owners don’t move to Dubai? What have they gained from going to Dubai - they don’t want to invest in the uk anymore. They have moved abroad so their foreign investments aren’t taxed.

Back from dinner. The subject of the conversation is whether Labour has done a good or bad job on the economy. So far I’ve heard 1. It’s the tories fault 2. I have no clue. 3. It’s other external problems Even with evidence the dial switches with left wing but nobody has said they have done a good job or stood up for their policies. Any further comments please focus on this point and justify why labours policies have helped to grow the economy.

I have buddy well done. To be honest I don’t care. up the saints hope we win tomorrow enjoy the game

I am mate but, as Jason and kylie said, it’s specially for you

Hey buddy keep enjoying your non exec director role - I heard it was Woolworths?

Hi mate I’ll respond tomorow - just heading for dinner. Enjoy rest of your day

I’m in real estate

Not when someone says you don’t have to pay anything. If you have been paying £50 per every hundred and someone says it’s now £60, despite reasons for staying sometimes it goes too far. That’s what Labour has achieved

Most of them have retained property and assets (beyond their personal) homes but have stopped or limited investment in the uk. Other than 2 mentioned the rest are significantly beyond the bracket you mentioned. They own significant stakes in companies or signicant assets in the uk.

So if you have £100 and I ask for £60 of it and you won’t give it me then you are selfish? if I deserve a pay rise but won’t give it up to allow a lazy colleague to have a pay rise then I’m selfish. seriously?!!!! That’s one of the worst arguments I’ve ever heard

Well you will have to accept I’m telling the truth. I don’t lie it’s bad form and certainly not to make a point on a forum. I could say the same about you saying you are a non exec director on boards. I believe you cause I think it would be sad to BS. it’s well publicised that the increase in capital gains and change in non dom status are meaning people are leaving. They are also anticipating future tax changes which will be coming over the next few years. Compare this to no income tax, paid schools and houses by companies if you move to other places why wouldn’t you. If I didn’t have family ties I would leave too. These people contribute significant amounts of tax but keep pushing and the connectivity of the world now means it’s easy to leave. Most of these people used to be positive about their own country but they don’t recognise it as much now

You’re also missing the bigger point - whilst you may think they are selfish for leaving who will cover their tax burden because of crap economic policies - will you?

Haha always the same. Proven right so the dial changes. Left wingers are hilarious. Why are they selfish - answer that? If they pay millions of pounds in tax already and cover their tax burden and the tax burden of many others why are they selfish? They will have contributed to the economy and the public purse multiple times over than 99.99% of the population and yet they are selfish

So are you willing to accept that this isn’t just scaremongering?

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Interesting that your experience is different probably because of the sector you are in and that I am in. Appreciate the response rather than throwing spurious allegations - there is probably more common ground between people than we realise but social media and three word responses often mean that people aren’t willing to listen to each other which is a sad reflection of society

Exactly - and it won’t come back for years even after the current Government get voted out.