Sir Ralph

Ok agreed - I’ll put you on ignore if you keep calling me a c bomb though. 😆

This feels weird - why are we being nice to each other? Maybe let’s both be a bit more respectful to each other in future posts

Thats fine and you’re fully entitled to your opinion. We would probably actually get on ok in reality. also thanks for calling me fairly well educated - I’ll take that as a compliment. I’ll take your advice on board and try to be less of a c bomb If you move to Dubai I’ll give you my friends details so you can hang out with them 😉

I have children and I agree it takes the edges of you. I see the world much differently than before kids. You talk about empathy and kindness but your posts don’t really reflect that in the way you engage with people if I’m being honest. I’m not saying I’m an angel either. Not being rude or trying to wind you up just an observation as I know you have broad enough shoulders to take it. I mean you called us both c bombs in the above message

No - if you think he is a facist it doesn’t fit the below definition. Let’s deal in facts. How does he meet the definition on this basis? fascist is a follower or proponent of fascism, a far-right political ideology characterized by extreme nationalism, authoritarian rule by a single party and dictator, and totalitarian control over society. Fascism places the nation above all else, opposing individual rights, democracy, and often using violence and oppression to maintain power and achieve national unity. Notable examples include Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany.

Are you pissed?

He is quoting out of context on purpose. He already posted quotes earlier which were shown to be incorrect. I’ll await the Dubai comment

What he said in response to a question was United Airlines wanted to employ 50% women and people of colour (their description). He said that because of that policy it would mean that you wouldn’t necessarily get the best people for the job as you are prioritising someone’s profile instead of their competency . This would reduce standards for pilots in this scenario. He didn’t say they wouldn’t be qualified. He said the quality would reduce, and therefore DEI profiling lowers standards and this is why DEI isn’t good, in his opinion. He is also using pilots as an example only - the principle he is arguing is intended to apply to a range of roles and different groups of people

He didn’t say that - you need to watch the video to see the context also. I don’t recall a video where he has denigrated lesbians or disabled people but if you have them happy to be wrong

But who said that?

He didn’t say that at all. What he said in response to a question was United Airlines wanted to employ 50% women and people of colour (their description). He said that because of that policy it would mean that you wouldn’t necessarily get the best people for the job as you are prioritising someone’s profile instead of their competency . This would reduce standards for pilots in this scenario. He didn’t say they wouldn’t be qualified. He said the quality would reduce, and therefore DEI profiling lowers standards and this is why DEI isn’t good, in his opinion. He is also using pilots as an example only - the principle he is arguing is intended to apply to a range of roles and different groups of people

He didn’t say black people couldnt fly planes for some reason. That would have been making negative assumptions or racist. He used that only as an example (he has used other groups, including white people to make the case against DEI also) that DEI could select somebody based on their skin colour. In fact he is arguing against racial profiling that he perceives DEI introduces.

You would need to watch the original video to see the context. Doesn’t DEI, in some instances, racially profile people by virtue of its concept?

Without getting into the rights and wrongs of DEI, I think the point was made earlier was he made racist comments based on the extraction of some text. You might disagree with what he says about DEI and others may agree. You need to remember that he is also undertaking a debate with somebody - an exchange of views. It isn’t a speech. The point he is making is in his opinion is that DEI can place importance on matters other than competence. He also in other videos used the inverse about if you applied DEI to white people and how that would not result in the best outcome. You may disagree with his views on DEIs and the outcomes of it but the point he is making is that in his opinion DEI doesnt result in the best outcomes. In my opinion that isn’t a racist view which is what was alleged

Enjoy your evening

Yes the words Johnny S quoted would be racist but he doesn’t say that. It’s complete misinformation. If you watch the video you will see that. The reason I showed the video is because it is him using the relevant words. So you think what he says in that video is racist?

Cause he didn’t say that - watch the video and then tell me if it’s racist. This is painful

Well I’ve given you the video of him saying what Jonny S alleges. Watch it and make your mind up. It’s a prime example of people making a statement to frame in a bad way when they didn’t say it.

Are you joking? It’s the opposite - he doesn’t say anything negative or discrimatory about skin colour or heritage. Why do you think it is racist?

Cause they are - multiple claims have been made about this bloke all of which are unfounded and have no evidence. Explain this to me, if there’s no evidence of him being racist and derogatory, why do so many people on here seem to want to find something wrong with him? Why not just say, maybe he wasn’t as bad as we thought. But no, persistently pursue the narrative

There’s your research. Here’s a life lesson - don’t believe all the bollocks you read on the internet

Seriously?!! You consider that to be a derogatory statement? This is the video where he talks about it and refers to him reduction. I try to stay reasonable in my wording but this whole thing just proves to me what the left have become. They will dismiss anyone they don’t agree with even without evidence. It’s been proven on this thread a number of times and now claiming this statement is derogatory.

Give me evidence please. Thats a general comment. There are plenty of videos of him out there to prove your point.

Again I disagree he used it in a derogatory way. Going back to the point if this is perceived use of a word is being highlighted as one of his bad attributes he sounds a lot nicer than 99% of the people on here (me included).

If you have resorted to saying he used the word “liberal” a way you perceive to be derogatory, that probably says a lot about how terrible Kirk was 😆I never heard him really say anything derogatory. All there is broad allegations with no real substance (at least consistent substance).