Sir Ralph

It’s not all of their making. They are making it worse. How are they helping?

We aren’t talking about people on minimum wage. We are talking about young educated people who are possibly young entrepreneurs. If you want to start a business, the incentives due to increased business costs are reduced. To employee people is now riskier due to the new labour rights bill. Dividend tax is up, capital gains tax is up, personal tax is essentially up due to freezing of tax bands. In addition young people see what’s happened in the last year and think there is another 3 years or so left of this. If you are in your prime years why spend it here - go to a country with a positive business environment.

The point of the article is why nearly 200k British young people have left in the last 6 months. I quote: David Little, financial planning partner at UK wealth manager Evelyn Partners, believes young people are choosing to work abroad due to the "increasingly negative economic narrative in the UK", of high unemployment, rising debt and tax burdens, and fewer graduate vacancies. Obviously, like me, this guy doesn’t have a clue. As you have articulated many times, we need to be taxing people more but these are unfortunately the consequences of short term economic policies like that

So your point is that, despite some of the examples quoting the worsening economic environment and business surveys showing the lowest level of optimism for a significant period, that all of a sudden a surge of young working people have had personal issues that have meant they have decided to leave the country in much greater numbers than before? Just checking if that’s your explanation

Deflection. Point isn’t really relevant to why more young British working people want to leave anyway. People coming here from other countries probably in search of a better life compared to theirs in developing countries. That isn’t a great test for the success of rhea country. Notwithstanding this isn’t immigration down too if that’s the point you want to make? Back to the young people - why are they leaving?

The three examples provided by the BBC all left since the new government came into power. As I keep saying, a lot of people are disheartened by a government who wants to tax working people and businesses more and more and think they would be more successful elsewhere. This is a very common business sentiment regularly published in the press. Whilst the Tories had some policies that didn’t help, government policy has certainly peaked this sentiment, and therefore the response from these young people is not surprising. The evidence in this sentiment is contained below. https://www.icaew.com/technical/economy/business-confidence-monitor/business-confidence-monitor-national https://www.iod.com/news/uk-economy/iod-press-release-business-confidence-falls-to-new-record-low/#:~:text=The IoD Directors' Economic Confidence,+6%2C from +5.

You’re missing the point. It’s not a good thing that young people want to leave the country. We invest a lot in their education via the tax payer for them to stay and contribute to our economy. Making a personal comment about me is missing the point and is rather childish. This (younger people leaving) shouldn’t be happening

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kpv1z372lo Greedy and delusional young people. They should just suck it up, put up with an over regulated system and pay more tax, albeit these issues are all in their heads anyway so not sure what they are whinging about🤣. It’s unacceptable we have invested so Much in their education to lose them to other countries because they can’t see a future here…..

I think with all of these it’s getting what we can to help offset wages for incoming. As they say every little helps.

Obviously an ideal world. If someone paid £10 a week of his wages I would let him go on loan

Sell or loan: MCarthy, D Downs, Archer, Fraser, Aribo Need: GK, another winger, a big 9 The board need to have a big 9 lined up fast as we need to have an alternative option to play

I think the point is we aren’t ready to go up. I don’t want to go up if we are going to get smashed every week again

Azaz needs to be dropped

His ball carrying pushed Oxford back. As soon as he came off for Fraser Oxford knew we posed much less risk and it allowed them to come forward. Tondas in game tactics and subs are very poor

Tonda out. Shit subs against Coventry and today. Killed the game when he took fellows off. Board didn’t need to appoint him so early.

A majority who post regularly on here are on the left to some degree. It’s reflected in the parties they support. It’s nothing to hide but when people who are on the left say their views generally reflect the centre, that’s when it goes wonky.

This is hilarious and another completely irrational post. So when your tenant refuses to pay rent and the governments new policies back them and not the landlord, who covers that cost? The magic money tree? I’ve been out over Christmas and everyone hates this government. drinking horlicks and commenting on a football forum understand this though 😆 The lefties all sit on this forum and convince themselves on mass that because there is enough of them they are right. You lot are so far detached from the real business world it’s become comical. Keep convincing yourselves that if there are enough posters agreeing you are right 😆

This is what is happening. I know people who are looking to sell parts of their rental portfolio as a result. This means those houses go to private owners and there is less supply for renters. Same demand and less supply means higher cost for renters. The properties that are kept by landlords will mean costs are passed onto renters. Either way the legislative changes will harm renters not help them. It’s an example of government meddling where they don’t haven’t looked two steps ahead.

Relevance to this point?

I find it amusing that people that have no idea support labour still and pretend they are pro business..#mainlytheunemployedorgovernmentemployees

Yes I don’t support the triple lock. Welfare was bloated already it didn’t need adding to. Most other parties would have reformed it. Whether Starmer tried or not, the Labour Party has increased welfare spending at the cost of the tax payer and business I added Ireland because I realised I hadn’t responded to your question in this respect. Of course it’s not that straightforward but countries like Ireland and Poland who have performed better over recent years have encouraged pro business policies like lower tax. Unlike the uk. I’m not saying it’s easy to facilitate growth but they have gone about it the wrong way and I believe there should be a better business environment than has been developed over the past 18 months

Great response. A quality argument. Genuinely no disrespect but based on your previous explanation of your work background I doubt you are really commenting from a place of experience.

They have increased day to day public spending and welfare spending at the cost of the tax payer and business. Do you dispute that and do you think you grow an economy doing that?

By business person I am referring to a wide range of people. A few of them voted Labour because they were fed up with the Tories and I think most of them said they wont do it again or are certainly thinking of voting for someone else. Labour states it is pro business. It courts business on the face of it and sticks to fiscal rules which is good. However, it achieves this by taxing businesses and those that own them to achieve this. Not pro business in reality - when the Cabinet say this I do not believe they understand what they are saying or how to get there. What policies has it brought in to help businesses day-to-day? Ireland is a good example of a western country that has achieved economic growth. Do you know how?