Sir Ralph

Reminds me of a very very very shite zidane the way he meanders around the pitch

What a ball. Diaz thinking about what he’s having for dinner again

Fair enough. It seems as though the system is broken. My wife knows people who don’t need the money claiming money for their kids having ADHD (and they don’t). Having quotas for decisions is wrong too if people genuinely are struggling. The problem it appears is that it’s easy for people to make things up about MH as it’s not visually apparent. That harms those in genuine need. Question is how do you address a system where people can make things up and get away with it as it’s not visually obvious. I don’t think the status quo works but not sure what the answer is. Many of us have had MH issues with work stress (I would say a decent of people that I know have or still do). However we carry on so I struggle to reconcile why many people are booked off. It does seem that the system needs to be tougher

Point is there are tonnes of people milking the system and the system allows it as it’s too soft. GPs just sign people off as it’s the easy thing to do.

Mental health is impacted by different things. It says a lot that I focused on how employment can help and you focused on how people can’t work. In which post did I say it was a sole solution? Please point this out to me. Some people will be impacted by a lack of purpose in life, including younger people who are unemployed, and that will impact their mental health. Good to see the usual gang backing one another even though one of their own is talking utter tripe. I’m waiting for the evidence which confirms I’m wrong. You won’t be able to so apology accepted #leftwingpartisanechochamber https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jun/12/young-people-fear-long-term-unemployment-work

Not really is it. You’ve essentially said that statement is clueless if it concludes that if people are in employment it has no improvement in terms of their mental health - really???!!! Pesky evidence below (there is tonnes of it). Provide me with evidence that contradicts my comment and supports your view. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7681163/ https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/employment-dosage https://deconstructingstigma.org/latest/benefits-working

If we worked harder on getting people into work we would have fewer mental health issues

…you forgot the Ugandan boxers

Questions, questions - you are very good at asking lots of them (four in that one). I answered rounds 1-17 but by 18 I got bored. There isn’t much point responding as you just come back with more and it goes in a never ending circle. Your tactic is pretty clear. I’ve seen it with other posters you don’t agree with. Any chance you could put me on ignore would be appreciated. The part of you that is amusing is the way you subtly attempt to mention your own perceived success now and again on a forum to strangers. For clarity the above are statements not questions.

I thought you were putting me on ignore.

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Ditto - comic genius of the highest standard 😂

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https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16023121/Man-arrested-body-British-woman-Athens-suitcase.html

I’m not responding as I have other things to do in my day. I’m off to make a Lego deportation camp 😂

Last questions I’ll respond to on this: 1. This was one of two initial suggestions I made - so not a solution in isolation. Technically there is no difference. However knowing you are going to be transferred out of Europe when you arrive to Rwanda is a physiological disincentive. For those with uncertain cases / lack of evidence I would ensure processing times are sufficiently enlongated to try to weed out the fakes. 2. By Italy taking this robust stance, as a key member it starts to put pressure on the eu or other eu countries to take the wider matter more seriously if it wants to maintain its core value of free movement. Hopefully other countries threaten this to put the pressure on even more.

The issue is the number of “centrists” that jump on a single post made by someone they don’t agree with. It’s the Spanish Inquisition by multiple centrists that makes responding to queries nearly impossible. It’s death by a thousand cuts. Attack en masse to quieten dissent - I’ve read about that type of strategy before in various countries! No wonder people with alternative views stop posting and it becomes an echo chamber of the “centrists” left. To answer one of the queries I agree that if we could be part of the Dublin agreeemnt that would help as a factor in reducing immigration

Each country has its own issue. I didn’t say get rid altogether. It’s about reducing the scope of who qualifies. Gaza maybe one example but there are either countries where there are alternative safe locations - do you agree? In terms of offshore processing this is about upon arrival in Europe - not moving between European countries as they should have already been moved offshore for processing. Why wouldn’t that work? To me that’s the biggest disincentive which the conservatives did put forward. An observation- there is a specific group of people on here who allege they a want to reduce illegal migration. Any suggestion of a change is met with “that’s a terrible ideas” or “it won’t work” rather than engaging with the issue. Not surprising but rather strange bearing in mind their alleged views on this matter

@JohnnyShearer2.0 head above the parapet. Do you have the answer to my question you promised last week you were struggling with?

It’s in the brackets - providing only temporary asylum in many instances and prioritising the relocation of people to safe parts of their own country rather than coming here. Rwanda is a good example. It’s possible if the incentives for those countries is in place and the legislation reducers the risk of challenge. No - they want to come here no be shipped out to another less preferrable location for processing. Im glad Italy has put the cat amongst the pigeons as it might start forcing the eu to take this even more seriously. Needs some good conservative governance from the relevant eu countries to force their hand harder

How about for starters reducing the scope of what is considered a refugee (including refugeee status being temporary and identitying safe areas in their own countries which means they should seek asylum in other countries) and allowing processing in offshore locations.

https://www.reuters.com/world/italy-suspends-eu-schengen-free-travel-pact-with-spain-over-ceuta-crisis-2026-07-31/ well done Italy

Exactly but as there haven’t been any changes we have heard of being passed in terms of changes to legal frameworks we can assume that it hasn’t been successful in changing the legal framework, even if it was trying. Thats why it’s reasonable to criticise the EU for not having used it’s influence to improve agreement / change legislation on returns rather than just changing its own internal rules (which are uncertain still as they rely on third countries cooperating, which they may not do). Get personal - it doesn’t bother me - I have my own view of you but it’s not productive sharing it and it doesn’t make me feel “big”.

So nothing we are aware of. My point being the EU as an organisation should be doing more to disincentivise illegal immgration through changes to the international legal framework. It seems that the EU isn’t taking this issue as seriously as it should and this is a failure on its part

My question is what has the eu done as a bloc to try to influence international law on this matter? happy to accept that the Dublin mechanism was one factor in helping to minimise migration.