Sir Ralph

Well I’ve given you the video of him saying what Jonny S alleges. Watch it and make your mind up. It’s a prime example of people making a statement to frame in a bad way when they didn’t say it.

Are you joking? It’s the opposite - he doesn’t say anything negative or discrimatory about skin colour or heritage. Why do you think it is racist?

Cause they are - multiple claims have been made about this bloke all of which are unfounded and have no evidence. Explain this to me, if there’s no evidence of him being racist and derogatory, why do so many people on here seem to want to find something wrong with him? Why not just say, maybe he wasn’t as bad as we thought. But no, persistently pursue the narrative

There’s your research. Here’s a life lesson - don’t believe all the bollocks you read on the internet

Seriously?!! You consider that to be a derogatory statement? This is the video where he talks about it and refers to him reduction. I try to stay reasonable in my wording but this whole thing just proves to me what the left have become. They will dismiss anyone they don’t agree with even without evidence. It’s been proven on this thread a number of times and now claiming this statement is derogatory.

Give me evidence please. Thats a general comment. There are plenty of videos of him out there to prove your point.

Again I disagree he used it in a derogatory way. Going back to the point if this is perceived use of a word is being highlighted as one of his bad attributes he sounds a lot nicer than 99% of the people on here (me included).

If you have resorted to saying he used the word “liberal” a way you perceive to be derogatory, that probably says a lot about how terrible Kirk was 😆I never heard him really say anything derogatory. All there is broad allegations with no real substance (at least consistent substance).

In your opinion….

Out of interest why do you say that?

I agree with a reasonable amount of what he said yes. I don’t agree with everything but I don’t get offended by the things I wouldn’t agree with him on. I accept that some others disagree, whilst others agree with him. The point was put that he made racist, homophobic and other awful statements which I think has been shown is mainly misinformation. The point from this is don’t just dismiss somebody cause you read a headline and disagree with them and because some idiot on the internet said it. I’ve been guilty of it before but look a bit deeper before taking a view.

I think we both come at it from different view points due to our preferred political positions. I would agree with more of his views than you would, maybe compared to a liberal who I believe you would more likely support and I would disagree with. This is the world of opinions and nothing scarier than that. I think the USs current position isn’t just because of Trump. It’s both the right and the left and the lacking of willing to listen to other people’s opinions and tolerate them.

Ok it’s subjective but do you agree he wasn’t some mad racist, homophobe facist that some suggested?

I don’t think debates work like that. He didn’t discredit people - he explained his position. Like I said watch his videos. You can either assume what he was like based on trolls or watch the videos and be more informed (I say this in a non patronising way).

Again I would suggest the evidence is the key. What’s not acceptable is people having a reasonable opinion, carefully articulating it in a non hateful way and then being called a racist or homophobe. It’s really boring. The left really hated him because he took their arguments apart

If you go through nearly all of them won’t reflect the statement suggested . People with opposing views hated him because he often showed their arguments up for being unfounded. So they made crap up about him. I bet the muppet on Five Live didn’t even listen to him.

It was a tactic used by people from certain political view points to discredit him. In every circumstance you need to watch the video where he says it. What you will likely find is that he was a rationale (even if you don’t agree with all his views) and good debater. It’s unfortunate he was killed by some idiot who spent to much time reading bollocks on the internet.

Completely irrelevant to the point - muppets like King shouldn’t make false accusations. in fact the king article is a good example of people that hugely took his comments out of context to make a point.

I only read the first two What’s the context to these statements. The first one I found was false https://deadline.com/2025/09/stephen-king-apology-charlie-kirk-stoning-gays-1236529789/ The second comment was in the context of DEI - see video. He was using the second comment as an example. Do you really think he is being racist in this? The individual statements need to be read in context. Whoever produced the list has lazily tried to make a point. People just accept and don’t read into things and make their own minds up. The exact problem. Respectfully I suggest you listen to his videos and make your mind up

Have you watched his videos? If he was that extreme why was he allowed to debate in such public places under multiple governments. If he was racist he would have been arrested or stopped

I’m not a supporter of Trump as such. I think he’s done some good things and things that I’m not so sure about. On the flip side I preferred him to Harris but I think there should be better options for US president.

Yes I’ve listened to him before - less his debates more his own opinions and his reasoning for doing what he does

I don’t know who Alex jones is and never listened to him. I saw he said something ridiculous about sandy hook which I would suggest that particular view is extreme. Thats a different person though. Kirk is not near that (from the small things I’ve read about jones) so you shouldn’t dismiss someone like Kirk on the basis of the views from people who are actually extreme.

He never suggested or said anything of the sort. I think you should watch a couple of his debate and non debate videos, including why he explains what he does. I think it might change your perspective of him a bit (even though you may not agree with his views)

Thats just not correct - its called free speech. Just because you dont like it, it doesnt mean its wrong or shouldnt be said. Applies to both left and right view.