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That's unlike you not to have the balls to make a decision and sit on the fence, oh, wait, no, that's not right is it! What about your obsessed weirdos like Tamesaint and Unbelievable Jeff (same person) who have stated they will never accept Brexit - surely they would have a campaign to re-join up and running? What happened to your 'we've only been out 26 days' mantra, or does that only apply to remain movements, given that you've decided that Brexit is looking like a cluster-fuck after only 27 days

A reasoned explanation from the CEO of AZ here Essentially he's saying that EU processing is experiencing similar 'teething' problems to those encountered in the UK, however, the UK is three months ahead in terms of production due to signing the agreements three months earlier! This quote from him is enlightening :

Exactly. In North Korea you have to isolate in an isolation 'facility' for 40 days. Once you've finished with your isolation you are then moved to a 'quarantine' facility for a further 30 days. Zero recorded cases. We should be more like North Korea.

Four years to organise, find a leader, get a coherent message together, design a leaflet. What has been achieved, fuck all. Stop whining about it and get those winning plans in place - obviously not you, but someone else! You didn't have the cohones to vote one way or the other, no chance you'll have the stones required to get something this big off the ground

Able, yes, as was the rest of the EU. Obliged to toe the line and work together as a bloc is the reality for those that weren't planning to leave - well, except Germany who have apparently gone behind every one else's backs and arranged their own deals on to of what the bloc agreed...

And yet no "rejoin" campaign off the ground yet. Four years and not even a single leaflet produced for the campaign. WTF is all your waffle regarding eerie silence about - or are you just making up your usual pony and pretending that's what I said?

That's what we had during our summer - the point is that the virus appears to be less virulent during the summer months. Presumably because more people spend more time outside during the summer? Couple that with Australia's entry rules to the country - apparently they still have around 40,000 of their own citizens waiting to return home but no available space in their quarantine system for them! - which costs up to £2000 per person. If we had the same rules for all arrivals since lockdown 1 ended, we would probably have the same 'freedoms' over the winter as well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55813987

The ardent anti-Brexiters have had the last four years to get something going, not just 26 days. How much time do they need?

Sounds familiar, almost identical to the hardly onerous restrictions we had in place during our summer.

More normal than "here" during our summer?

Bless

To be fair, it's pretty much just CB Fry that claims that Europe referendums are once in a lifetime events. But then goes on to contradict himself as he expects a government to be elected 'sometime in the future' that will join the single market again He seems to have forgotten that we have elections every 5 years so we could rejoin Europe as early as June 2024 if there is enough support for anyone campaigining for the country to do so....

Interestingly, the article link below contains the following : https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales/deathsregisteredbetween9marchand28december2020 Whilst it doesn't state how many of those had underlying conditions, it does acknowlege that they are included in the number.

In that case, statistically, no-one has died from Covid / coronavirus either, given that what kills them is repiratory, heart or kidney failure (predominantly). The same way that the aids 'virus' attacks organs in the body. https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/covid-related-hospital-deaths-devon-4926980 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales/deathsregisteredbetween9marchand28december2020

I agree with you 100%. Doesn't take away from the fact that for the overwhelming majority of the population it is similar to a bad flu! When it comes to the under 25s you can probably reduce that to the same as a bit of a cold. As I mentioned, there are certain groups for which the virus is devastating. Both concepts are able to exist at the same time.

WTF? https://www.unaids.org/en/resources/fact-sheet

And yet, the statistics show that for the overwhelming majority of the population, that is exactly what it is. Unless you have some statistical data that suggests otherwise. (and no, I'm not claiming that the virus is a hoax etc etc and am more than aware that for certain people in certain age groups / demographics catching the virus is devastating, but I am willing to accept that both those standpoints can co-exist).

Basically Boris was a trailblazer recommending a course of action that even the WHO wouldn't recommend until two days after him. https://www.who.int/news/item/07-03-2020-who-statement-on-cases-of-covid-19-surpassing-100-000 Looks like Boris's 20-20 hindsight was well tuned even back then

Yep, we should have copied North Korea. Zero cases there. Why, oh, why aren't we more like them?

Nope, neither of those are Australia. HTH.

Looks like there could now be competition as to what kills the most people, the virus or the war over the vaccine!

Why are DPD refusing to deliver it?

On the flip side it's teaching them not to expect the plumber to fix the problem which is far more realistic.

Great, Mr thickie is here! It's possible to accept that "some" of the people would be the same without assuming that "all" of them are. Hopefully that's put things in simple enough terms for you, but do shout if you're still struggling.

Typical racist BBC calling the virus variations after geographical locations. Shame on them and the misuse of my licence fee. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55797312 But good news about the vaccine though - even if they are all racist scum over at the BBC!