Weston Super Saint

Fair play, there is always an exception that proves every rule.

I'm assuming you didn't bother to read the link I posted for you. Let me put a few quotes here to show how wrong you are, once more - feel free to take any of your objections up with the Pfizer scientists as all the info is from the link to their publication. The vaccine comes in it's own, specially designed shipping container to keep it nice and cold : Once it's been shipped it will maintain the recommended storage temperature (as above) for 10 days without anyone even touching it - so much for the -80c you claim it needs : Once the shipment has been opened, it needs to have dry ice added every five days to maintain the correct storage temperate for up to 30 days There is no mention on their website of -80c, this just seems to be a figure you've made up - feel free to read it slowly if it helps you.

Don't worry about it, coming from Timmy I take that as a compliment. There were a number of occasions during my 18 years as a General Manager of various pubs and restaurants that I helped out my staff with the 'menial' cleaning tasks. That's the thing about the private sector, managers are prepared to roll up their sleeves and get stuck in to get the job done, unlike the yoghurt knitters in the public sector who are more than happy to sit back and claim it's not their job....

You better get on to Pfizer and tell them quickly, those pesky scientists over there seem convinced about -70c - wow, they must be super thick and dull those guys https://www.pfizer.co.uk/mhra-grants-temporary-authorisation-for-Pfizer-BioNTech-COVID-19-mRNA-vaccine

That nurse at Timmy's surgery is going to be busy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55184849

I'm not sure financial services have to endure border delays to be fair.

Still wrong though. But that's par for the course for you.

Bless, did you get upset.

Lol. Bless, grasping at straws there. I've never said I believe him, just that he said it, it's really not that hard to grasp even for you.

Meh, what do they know. Tell them to take it up with Timmy, he said it will be ready...

Jesus wept. It's an injection. Dentists can do it, vets can do it, nurses can do it, Army medics can do it, doctors can it. Medical students can do it. No wonder you don't have the ability to be inventive!!

No need. Even a simple search will show you that the vaccine will come in small bottles. Here's an idea, if you're stuck on the idea that they will have to be administered from GP surgeries, they could distribute the smaller bottles amongst a number of practices and have a number of nurses giving injections at the same time. That would be novel wouldn't it...

Take it up with Timmy, he's the one that said it will be 'ready'. But then, comprehension has never been your strong point has it...

Where's that banner gone... It's magically gone up from 480 doses to 975. Perhaps they ran out of smaller bottles, oh wait, no, that's right, there won't be a need to thaw out all of the bottles at the same time, unless you think it's going to arrive in one big bottle

Don't worry about Timmy, he's just a little bit deluded. He clearly thinks this once in a lifetime virus that has killed hundreds of thousands of people will be vaccinated in the same way that kids get their MMR jabs.

He said it would be "ready", that implies it will be fit for purpose....

Your posts should come with a little banner at the bottom like trump's Twitter posts. It needs to be kept at -70c and comes in it's own container designed by Pfizer that uses dry ice, not exactly the hardest thing to get your hands on. Once thawed it can be stored in a fridge for up to five days. That's not exactly 'having to use it quickly' given that the rest of the population other than you, will be queing up to get their shots.

Lol

That's the spirit, very pioneering! Do you still read by candle light and post using an Amstrad computer or have you accepted that some things can be better than the originals. It's a good job you're a yoghurt knitter and not a scientist as we'd have no chance of progressing

So 9 days before it's needed then?

A trade mechanism WILL be in place though. You / me and the lady next door may not like trading on WTO terms, but that doesn't mean the mechanism won't exist... What Hancock said will not affect future imports from Belgium in any shape or form.

I agree. He didn't need to claim that Brexit had a hand in the pace at which the vaccine was approved in the UK, however, there wasn't anything he said that wasn't true, but I guess that's more by luck than judgement as the medicine element of the transition period would have been agreed long before covid became known. Who knew, politicians like to trumpet things to suit their own agenda. It's shocked me to the core has that revelation.

That's not strictly what it is saying. Basically it says that until the end of December any vaccine that is developed in European countries can be licenced by the European Medicine Agency and that authorisation will automatically be valid in the UK. It also states that the UK has a seperate route for any vaccine it develops / tests by itself, which can be authorised by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) and doesn't also need to be certified by the EMA. I don't believe that authorisation will automatically be accepted by the EMA as they will still undertake their own 'rigorous' process. Had we not been subject to Brexit there would be no need for my second paragraph as we would be under the jurisdiction of the EMA alone. So, yes, technically, the reason why we can have the vaccine certified 'more quickly' is because we don't have to wait for the EMA to finish it's process (the UK certifies 'batches' of the vaccine, whilst the EMA certifies the entire process on the understanding that all future batches will be the same), which is a direct result of Brexit. I don't believe any other member states can approve their own vaccines as they all have to be approved by the EMA first, with individual members approving after that has happened....

Rule 1?

Looks like the 'firebreak' went really well in Wales. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55128305 Meanwhile my daughter and the rest of her year (Yr 11) has been sent home to isolate again. They've been back for a whopping week and today since their last 2 week isolation period. Another positive test from someone who was in school last Monday for the day and the whole year has been sent home