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Harsh, he could have left the team as it was and said he was waiting for the club to bring someone in. Instead, he has made changes and played players we would normally be too nervous to play. I don't think he could be categorised as a yes man. I do agree it's too early to say he deserves it as managers make their statement when they need to bounce back but we shall see.

What I like most about this game is that I'm excited by it. Right or wrong for the job as least Tonda has done that. He has done it on his own way as well. It will be a test but a few weeks ago we would be dreaming for a win, hoping for a draw and annoyingly expecting a loss. He has at least instilled some pride and and excitement for this game. The players will be up for it. Either that or we lose and we all crash back down to reality. I'll hope for the win.

What I like about Tonda so far is that he is taking his chance with two hands. It would have been easy to sit back and use the same players as Still and think he's just doing a job. However, he's made bold decisions, playing u21s that he believes in, brought back Baz and Stephens, has Armstrong playing differently. To me he is staking a claim and he's either going to die by it or rise by it and that's commendable. Either way, if we offer him the job or not, he in my opinion is someone we want around our club. People are saying the three games werent tests but Charlton were above us in the league and with the emotions high it could have been different. Not sure what the answer is ATM but one thing is for sure, I am now looking forward to the next game, and whatever team he picks I'll be excited by because he's picking the team that he wants and not being a puppet on a string. It's exciting.

If miraculously the team looks good and we get wins than I'll be surprised and back him. Saints have played the roulette table so many times, surely we have to hit at some point. However, I feel bad for him if losses come our way and I hope in his early years he understands what will come will actually have nothing to do with him but something much bigger than him. And he will need to relay that message to the team because believe it or not, there are good future players in that squad who just don't have someone to lead. Look how leaders made Fonte look. Soon as he left for West Ham he got found out. Fingers crossed

In all honesty, I don't think the club know what they want to do. The fact people care how our players treat the manager is part of the mess in the first place. They haven't earned the respect to have a say, by the media covering it just allows the players to have more power than they deserve. It has nothing to do with playing experience, its a results business. Other clubs have gambled and got it right (Brighton, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth etc). A good manager and competent manager would probably want to come in and say, your squad isn't good enough for your ambition.

My concern is there is no urgency to get this done. Could be wrong though. I could just see Saints not making a decision in this two weeks as they want to be thorough but then giving up the opportunity to start training the players how the manager wants to. Instead, they will be training like the under 21s and then when we finally have a manger it bill be pressure on as we will be in the run up to Xmas and the manager hardly has time in-between matches. However, I hope I'm wrong.

For me, I think Ralph as out of all the managers, there was never a fall out with the board or players. He kept his dignity throughout the whole process and even when he did leave it wasn't a sense of happiness by all fans as he was highly respected. It would confuse the players to bring back Martin. Senior players may want him back but it's because he was their friend. He admitted that he was to soft on players and thought he owed players something when actually he didn't. If you aren't good enough that should be it. Our keepers have been told to show freedom and not play these little passes in dangerous areas (he comes back and that will happen again). In all honestly, I can't see a different manager who has any sense wanting to come to Saints as the club is currently a sinking ship. The players are divided, the fans are divided and the board have no clue of what they are doing. We simply need a manager to come in and steady the ship so that fans can get behind the team but still put pressure on the powers above as they haven't done well for years. Even with money which is depressing.

No creativity from the outside or in the box. Nobody wants to shoot the ball. How many times the ball got dribbled across the box to just be passed out wide. Frustrating to say the least. Passing out wide should be an option not the game plan.

Calvin L becomes a free agent tomorrow, would he be a cheap option for next season. Surely, he would take charge in that league.

I am more optimistic. WS has a much bigger following than most managers. Will he take off running (one could hope) but realistically he will need time. However, I think (merely speculation) that it's more likely he will leave us for more ambition than we sack him. Almost like a RK all over again. Someone like Everton or his well known favourite club West Ham will sneak in when we show signs of success. However, we are soo bad and lack in ideas, quality, structure, originality and so many other things that getting used as a stepping stone means some of these things would be resolved so I'll take it.

I ran into Spurs in bmouth airport (the year Poch left Saints for Spurs) as they had played Bournemouth and assumed they were heading back to London (short flight) then two months later ran into Man City at Bournemouth Pier and my 3 year old had a sun glasses comparison with YaYa Tore which was a family highlight.

I like that he is 32 which is probably why he is so eager to win. He shoots from his hip right or wrongly. Older managers don't commit to an idea and try to stay mutual whereas as he doesn't come across as safe. He's eager and hungry to win at whatever cost including adaptability. Iny opinion we haven't had that since poch.

"Will Still's Got Us Buzzin’" Na-na-na-na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na-na-na... Will Still! Na-na-na-na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na-na-na-na... Top skill! He’s got the Saints playin’, Fast and thrillin’, never stayin’ still — Will Still! Young and fearless, smart and chill, Running things at St Mary’s — what a thrill! We’re marching on with Will in charge, Southampton’s dreams are gettin’ large — WILL! STILL! WILL! STILL! (Sing it loud now!)

"Will Still's Red and White Army" (Chorus) Ohhh Will Still, he’s got the Saints playing fine, From Belgium to the South Coast line! Tactically slick, passion and pride, With Will at the wheel, we're on a ride! He’s young, he’s bold, he’s got the flair, Premier League? We’re getting there! Sing it loud, sing it true, Will Still, we’re backing you! (Repeat: "Will Still’s Red and White Army!") Clap-clap — Clap-clap-clap "Will Still’s Red and White

If he was a player we would say march on. If you don't want to be here we don't want you. Fighting for him regardless of what they are saying would be easier if he was acting like this was the club for him. Keeping his options open isn't someone you want to pay a fee for to get him released from a contract.

I don't understand why people are against him. He's proven in other leagues (although not the championship or premier league) new ideas need to start from somewhere (Crystal Palace just won the FA cup on a gamble manager). He has to be decent if Reims were willing to pay 22,000 each time he managed a match. People are stuck on the same names that have stories of being successful in the league but all those managers have also been relegated or been sacked not to mention who knows if they want to come to a crumbling team like us at the moment. I just think it would be nice to be the team that takes a gamble and potentially pays off. People would likely give him a bit more time. Whereas a manager who has been there and done that will not get the time needed and people will be very quick to turn. To be fair I'm surprised Leicester aren't linked. I don't think there is a right or wrong as we are shyte and it needs to get a lot right if we have any chance regardless of manger. Being able to trim the squad down and add quality without bloating the squad again is just as big of a job as hiring a manager. However, the inside has been a overhaul of changes so why not go with a wild card manager. As always IMO.

I think Still would be worth going for as he will cause people to ask questions. Managers won't have many clues to go by. Other teams have taken gambles (Bournemouth, Brighton etc) and others have gone with the been there done that (west ham) which hasn't gone down as they hoped. Then again it worked for Everton so being in the right place at the right time comes to mind. For me it would be a fresh of breath air to try something different and see if we can finally be the team that people think struck gold (like Brighton). It may not work but trying something predictable for me is a bigger gamble as people will judge them harsher and quicker. Clearly just an opinion.

Took my daughter to the game and we both were relying on our lunch to be the best part of our day but actually we left the game with a sense of pride. It wasn't pretty by any means and listening to people shout "go forward" clearly haven't been following the Saints all year but the players showed they care. Clearly the plan was to support one another, don't leave anyone hanging and stay focused from start to finish which I believe they did. If we would have played how Pep and Dias wanted us to, we would have chased every ball up to the halfway line, got exhausted by the 20th minute and they would have score by the 30th minute and we would all be thinking here comes the rugby score. If we can't organise ourselves to go forward and yet defend against a teach such as Leicester how the hell would we do it against Man City. Anyway, thank you Saints for putting it all on the line for us today and making it a good day out.

I disagree, yes there were moments of miscommunication but that is always going to happen especially when needed to act on reactions. You could tell how trained they were to hold tight rather rather than disperse. Each time Saints had almost everyone on their side, someone had to take a yellow in order to slow them down and stop the threat from the counter attack. Clearly the danger were the crosses so they double teamed which caused them to pass it out front which led to nothing( surprising how few attempts they had from distance). Pep and Dias complain that we didn't try to play but we don't have the team to play. If we come out, we lose our shape which is exactly what they want and need most teams to do. So as I said, miss-communicate at times yes, organised yes but got a well deserved point.

As I've said previously, I think we need someone who wants a clean slate, full of ideas and most importantly wants to be bigger than Southampton. Normally, I'd be worried if they want to use Southampton as a stepping stone but on this occasion I'll take it because if we are a stepping stone he has to be successful. I still stand by my idea of Still as he is the only stand out candidate who wants to be bigger and is an unknown.

I think Will Still has more to prove and although a gamble it would be worth taking, so although controversial I think he would feel he has just as much to lose as Saints if not more. He wants to be a big manager, he has earned the respect of many for what he has already done but needs to prove he can do it in England if he wants to one day manage a 'Big Club'. Personally he could take less risk than taking on Saints as we need a complete rebuild. But I think his desire to prove himself and eagerness to be the next big thing could only work in our favour until he becomes too big for us but hopefully by the time he does that we are a better complete team. Whereas Rohl has a reputation regardless of what happens and in someways has an excuse for his shortcomings coming into the role. (club falling apart etc) I am not convinced he has the same all or nothing pressure that Sill has but obviously this is my opinion.

Its a dammed if you do or don't situation. We need a manager so that they can start building a plan with their preference for the following season and can start the rebuild asap but that means potentially making a rash decision and regretting it. If we wait we limit the impact a new manager could have on signings and lose the interest of interested managers as there won't be time to influence the outgoing and incomings and in which case could be too late to get the manager we would want. So all in all its crap either way with little chance of a silver lining ATM.

Manager Premier League wins at Southampton Ralph Hasenhuttl 47 Ruben Selles 2 Nathan Jones 1 Russell Martin 1 Ivan Juric 1 Simon Rusk (interim) 0 Pretty depressing when you think about it.

Th crazy thing is, there was a time that 4-0 would have been considered as a heavy defeat which equals booing at full time and potentially some chants of you're being sacked in the morning. However, we have become accustomed to the score line and it now just feels like a normal loss. At 4 nil and shots for a 5th, Ramsdale swearing at his own team mates to get the **** up the field, you could still here our fans singing proudly (for good or bad depending on who you ask). This feels worse than getting relegated. Normally you go down as favourites to come back up, we will be the favourites to either be relegated twice or at least finish bottom half. Depressing...

In all honesty, I think it hurts Juric as much as it hurts the Saints to stay. He may as well leave to save face and we need to bring someone in who can bring the group together, bring back a style that it's competitive and fun to where players want to stay and play for the manager. At least it would allow us to build a positive transition from one league to another and hopefully give us confidence in the season to come. This just has a feeling of manager, players and fans screaming and being dragged through the mud as we are booted out of the league and everyone looking forward to playing us next season.