Fuengirola Saint

I agree with you on the Iraq war question, i never supported it but then again i never said either that i supported New Labour. The unemployment problem now is just another symptom of the neo liberal system failing, i.e banks failing, deregulation of banking is if we are being honest with ourselves a Tory utopia, e.g unfettered markets.

I think you will find mush, that unemployment in May 1979 was around 1.2 million and falling. The Labour isn't working campaign was just part of a slick advertising campaign by the marketing guru's Saatchi & Saatchi. When did i draw parallels with which way someone votes and which football club they will therefore support, i think that was your fellow Tory DP Saint.remember May,79 1.2 million- May 82 3.25 million unemployed

No that was under a Conservative government under Ted Heath December 1973, and it was a three day week. The rubbish in the parks was during the winter of discontent 78-79, under Jim Callaghans Labour government.

I'm not a troll, just putting my point of view across, i left school in 1982 at the height of Thatchers wrecking spree, it wasn't very nice entering the jobs market with more than 3.25 million out of work. I went to Liverpool to see Saints in the early 80's and the place was desolate, it was like Grozny, by the way i do agree with you on the question of fair and fitting punishments for criminal activity.

How can i not judge you? In my eyes you have said that by being a Tory you don't give a toss about anybody else.

Do you not think that most of the problems in Britain stem from the disastrous New Right Friedmanesque policies of the Thatcher governments, i.e creating a 'me first' type society ( wasn't it Thatcher who said there is no such thing as society ), causing mass unemployment thus creating a dependency culture which still permeates today. If you look at most of the scumbags causing trouble today they invariably come from this background of welfare dependency, of course there are exceptions.

Not worse but on a par.

The majority of the anti trade union legislation was enacted before the miners strike of 1984-5

Southampton has only had a Tory council for a couple of years or so before that you'll have to go back to the early 80's. The citys two mps are Labour.

1, Poll Tax 2, Anti trade union legislation 3, Income Tax cuts for the rich whilst raising V.A.T, which impacts on the poorest in society 4, Linking the state pension to prices rather than earnings Just a few to keep you going.

Ah, yeah but my point is people like you wouldn't vote for them if they espoused those policies now, so that is a rather pointless argument

I can talk about what i want,when i want! I pay into the Seguridad Social here and have paid thousands in tax in Britain as well, so i'll have an opinion on who runs that country.

I think you just made that up, Southampton is much more of a Labour city than Portsmouth.If you look at our parliamentary historys, Southampton has returned far more Labour mp's.

Don't think so mush,New Labour are in my opinion only marginally to the left of the Conservative Party. They are both Neo liberal parties, and you only have to look at Peter Mandelson to see that Labour has been infiltrated by career politicians. Could somebody tell me a Conservative policy that doesn't pander to individualism.

Sorry, but there is everything wrong with being a Tory, an ideology based on greed and a 'me first' attitude.

Well said mush, there seems to be a lot of these little Tory scrotes on this forum.

That won't make any difference to his footballing prowess

He only slags of MLT to get a rise out of people, he is one very sad individual!

Where have you been? In a cave?

Oh **** off you totally spannered up ****!

I think you´ll find that 1 pint is 568 ml

Oh just F¿¿k off will you

Sorry didn't realise you couldn't be a socialist and live in Spain, i'm actually a member of the Izquierda Unida, a grouping of Green and Communist parties. Back to Mcgoldrick, i think we should sell for maybe half a mil and get someone in who at least looks as if they care.

I voted for this government when i lived there, i remember the mid 90's nobody was a Tory. I'm sorry but i couldn't vote for a party( Conservative) that created a recession in the early 80's deliberately to destroy the Trade Unions