Seaford Saint

I can't help but think this is political....how many chances do you have to avoid prison when you steal cars, do some house breaking? Is it the fact that he was protesting against those who run the country? Would a football hooligan have got a similar sentence for a one off offence with no previous. I don't think so.

Sounds to me like a pre planned response designed to take the heat off themselves and off Cameron.......remind me, why did Murdoch have to nip round the back of number 10 when visiting? What did he have to say to Cameron? Now let me think?

Thanks....yep, I kind of thought as much.....Mr Peston had a big argument with Murdoch junior over James vies of the BBC. I have a feeling you are correct. Its a dirty world

Ben Reeves looked a different class against Basingstoke last year in a friendly. Pardew, our manager before Adkins, said during his time here that he did not think that Ben Reeves was too far away from the first team.

Is the second point conjecture?

Well done.....someone finally got it!

I expect this thread to run and run

Decommissioning Manager at Vodafone...some one has to do it and its me!!! I scoped the job, wrote the job descrpition, I now do the job......finding unused servers etc and decommissioning them.....not as easy as it sounds, I do save Vodafone millions though.

err outrage about what?

I could ask you how it could be possible that there are few if any dissenting voices.....surely somebody should be oofended by a country losing its last train carriage building capability......at the expense of the Germans

Our Tory Lib Dem team could stop it from happening....couldn't they? We have a political system that in many ways resembles a one party state. I am saddened and bewildered that no political capital is being made out of this. a non job is a job that can be done cheaper by some one else.

Bombardier UK has today (5 July) announced over 1000 redundancies, which will include both permanent and agency staff at its train manufacturing site in Derby. The cuts are a direct result of the coalition government's decision, made on 16 June to award a contract to build 1,200 new carriages for the Thameslink route to a consortium led by Siemens, These will be non jobs shortly, I hope you right wingers on here feel proud

The big hope for the West is for China to expand and import goods from us like BMW Rolls Royce etc.....trouble is there isn't much that the Chinese really want from us. As Peston said, China should stop making goods for us and to make goods for themselves. China will buy Greek assets not issue debt....the fact we overlook is that the Greeks should not have borrowed the money or another view would be that the banks should not have lent the Greeks the money. Aren't we about to shut down our last train building capability? 1400 jobs gone forever.

China has us or has that fact passsed you by? We have pretty much stopped making things. Buying vast amounts of land and other assets all round the world, securing a supply of raw materials. China is investing in the US and buying US firms too. I am not sure there is a way back for us.....Peston did a good analysis of the post 2008 world. Its worth a read.

I forgive Dune, I just can't work out if he is brighter than all of us and is playing with us and laughing in front of his screen.

I am not sure who owns the debt......whether all debt is equal....odious debt is an expression I have read about where a country cannot be responsible for it if for example a dictator took out th eloans...the US used this concept rightly in my view to get countries to cancel debt to Iraq after the invasion of Iraq. There is a good case for the same to be offered to the PIIGS as they are called.

Not sure China is buying all US debt.......China is not sitting back either - agreed about the US debt......if it was not for record low interest rates the US would be bankrupt now.....I forrget how an interest rate of 4% would add to their debt servicing. They'd be like Greece

Don't forget that unemployed prople in the states who give up looking for jobs become "ecoomically unviable" I can't recall the euphamism....anyway the true unemployment figure may well be closer to 13% or around 1 in 6 people.

8 July 2011 Last updated at 16:22 Share this pageEmail Print Share this page 104ShareFacebookTwitter.US jobs creation stalls in June Data suggests few employers are picking them up Continue reading the main story US EconomyUS debt talk parties 'far apart' US factories in surprise rebound Bernanke warning on US debt limit American gloom spooks investors The number of new jobs created in the US in June was the lowest in nine months as the employment recovery stalled, new data has shown. Only 18,000 new jobs were created in the month, way below expectations of a 90,000 rise, which had been raised by strong private sector hiring figures released on Thursday.

You are mental....house prices in the US continue to slide.....14 trillion in debt and no solution to reducing any time soon. The Greek and other countries debt situation in Europe....they cannot pay it back and will default I can't see a way out....

Dune you are surrounded by an air of stupidity I still can't work out if you are for real.....

Above 6000? Whats encouragimng about that other than it would be worse if it was below 6000 - allowing for inflation we hundreds of points from where we would otherwise be....6500 to 7000 I should imagine

I have to ask the bleedin obvious question....what did the news of the world hope to gain from the phones of dead soldiers families....even millie dowler? Good news about Renault in the post above

Excellent....have it!!

If Holly and Jessica were targeted its the end for the News of the World....seriously have to question who knew what......there are no words