pap

Turns out this sort of sh!t has been going on for centuries

Perhaps the mods need a bit of Flaming Lips. Especially the part about "trying to make the good things last".

I haven't seen this, but I am not sure why you are getting infractions. If you can't libel the dead in law, why does SaintsWeb bung out infractions for it?

He went to school with my uncle. He is not

Dunno if posted before, but the bill ain't just about porn. Covers much more:- http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-07/27/pornwall

If Convict Colony becomes the new Tokyo-Saint, will the current Tokyo surrender the username willingly?

Love your work, and agree largely with your conclusions, but am utterly at odds with your opening paragraph. Our system traps people in poverty; recent fixes just plunge people further into it. The great hope, of course, is that all of these scroungers will get off their arses and find work. The great reality is that there is a lot less of it about. I don't know what your experience of the new immigrant is, but the vast majority I've come into contact with are working people looking to meet specific ambitions by being here. Their very presence causes people to sponge off the state, because employers get ready-made skilled employees from overseas, and don't need to put as much effort into training domestic help. Spookily, that coincides with our largest youth unemployment problem in living memory. Might be putting 2+2 together and making five, but the link is tempting. The other thing I'd argue is that the main reason Eastern Europeans come here is to set themselves up in their own countries. Five years of hard work and slumming it can set them up for life, at least in the sense of taking care of life's major expenses. Can we promise the same to our own kids? We need to give people something to aim for, I agree. I think we also need to make guarantees for good citizenship, tangible benefits for people doing stuff the right way, such as social housing. The Tories put the UK wide riots down to pure criminality and opportunism, and yes, we had the showcase crims put front and centre in the media, but I can't help something deeper was at play, especially in London. I wonder, how many of those rioters have any sort of stake in London, or are likely to ever be able to afford any sort of stake in London? Doesn't excuse their behaviour, but could easily be a factor into why they were willing to rob and destroy so wantonly. Not their stuff; never will be. In immigration terms, I continue to maintain that there is no control while we're part of the Single Market. The Go Home campaign is a crude lunge at the only lever the Conservatives are brave enough to touch. Probs for the best, really. They're the ones who signed us up for the Single Market in the first place, amid a lot of dissenting voices.

Even weirder? These train accidents involving pilgrims. Coincidence surely, but spooky all the same.

Rotten is my mate's bro-in-law. True story. Never met him, unfortunately - but I've met his brother, who does blue collar work.

Do you espouse these opinions in your CLP meetings?

Sorry Big Bad Bob, I didn't see. I maintain Dubai Phil is saying this child is the antichrist though ( in a roundabout way ).

I agree. Any discussion of immigration without addressing the elephant in the room is pointless.

I think sir will find, if he checks his geek credentials, that the "belly putter" in question is the legendary hammer Mjölnir. This is an inappropriate gift for a mortal heir. You need godlike powers to wield it. Forget it unless gorgeous George has three 6's on his head.

If 500 million people can theoretically land on your doorstep and there is nothing you can do about it, how can you control immigration?

94K net is a lot of money in most places. btw, benefits are capped at around 30K Euro.

Alps looks like most blokes his age. Nowt to be ashamed of. I look forward to all the "beauty shots" of the rest of the f**king models we seem to have on here ( judging by their posts ).

I was a little bit disappointed to discover that there is no sex dungeon in the former soap star's house. However, that's not to say it never happened. There are a lot of wooden beams all over the shop. Someone could have easily been trussed up and suspended on them. I like to imagine they were. No rubber dinghys, possibly fresh meat from LIDL. Depends whether I can start earning an extra 14K euro mate. The 94K mark is apparently where you can call Lidl and Aldi the poormarket

You are more than welcome to attend the big scouse housewarmer, Bearsy

Quelle surprise. EDL apologist supports a van that says "Go Home"

Senior public servant, mate. A few posts up

That's very good going Window Cleaner, and respect to you for sharing. Not many would. I pull in around 80K euros gross and still shop in Lidl/Aldi from time to time. Then again, I've never been entirely comfortable with my ostensibly middle-class status, so perhaps that figures into it.

C'mon. Give us a figure. You were really up for showing everyone how well off you are earlier on. You've eagerly adopted "poormarket" as your own term. Now I'm thinking you've gotta be f**king loaded to be able to make such a statement. Dish it

Yay. Now being challenged in courts. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk-news/2013/jul/26/go-home-ad-campaign-court-challenge Your taxpayer money will now be used to defend this daft scheme in court!

So how rich are you, Window Cleaner? Don't be shy. You obviously want to talk about it.

My eldest isn't really into footy, my youngest, one of the most pro-scouse people you're ever likely to meet,. supports the Reds (and Rickie Lambert). Eldest used to claim to support Saints, but I doubt she really does. Wah.