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Aye, Celtic, Cardiff. Bugger off, I've not had my coffee yet!

Apparently Celtic now out of running. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2356538/Cardiff-pull-10m-deal-Celtics-Victor-Wanyama.html

You can take your clothes off with him if you want.

"Up your offer or fark orf", says Neil Lennon to Cardiff (NI to cockney translation courtesy of Google). http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-boss-neil-lennon-urges-4867243

Go go Comrade Trousers!

This also serves us middle-aged types that don't believe the world began with the occasion of their birth.

I didn't really have time to reply fully to your earlier post, JackFrost. I was surprised that you found these events so unsurprising, so day to day. Not a knock; a reflection of how different our worlds are. I live a routine life whereas a copper's entire profession is centred around exceptional events. My personal experience of crime? A couple of nasty blips over a 38 year timeframe, woven into a "life ain't all that bad" tapestry. My take? The OB was asked by some important Ilford people to remove some rather less important people. They did so, weren't necessarily looking to arrest anyone, and knew up front that if they toughed the roughs enough, they probably wouldn't come back. You speak of encountering homeless people and loading their possessions into the back of the van regularly, yet you refer to this as an isolated incident. I'm having trouble putting the concepts of frequency and isolation together, and isolated incident is what people say when something really bad has happened, but want to assure people that it's not something that happens very often. With much respect, JackFrost - I really do like your input on here, and trust me when I say that out of respect, this post has gone through a few revisions to make the content less confrontational. I'm not convinced by the exhibits on offer. I genuinely believe the OB has a vital role to play in the justice system, but the problems of homeless people are not solved by confiscating their temporary dwellings. It's not a problem the police should even have to solve. It's a symptom of poverty and the consequence of richer people not wanting to look it in the eye. I know coppers operate under a command structure which needs to be rigidly adhered to; I'm not expecting the constables to form an impromptu moral soviet every time an officer has a crisis of conscience. I just think you've got grander tasks to accomplish than sweeping things under the carpet.

Pah, you want it spoonfed?

Futbol_Mercado @Futbol_Mercado El mediocampista keniata Victor Wanyama es nuevo jugador del Cardiff City. Llega procedente del Celtic. 2:53pm · 3 Jul 13 · web

Update from the world of Twitter. @papingu Morning Pap, DPS here. Permanent ban due to ongoing feud with Glasgow, the last straw was me saying his itk status was ********...

Bit more context then. Link has a good timeline of events, if slightly biased. http://londonist.com/2013/05/police-confiscating-food-and-sleeping-bags-from-homeless-in-ilford.php Long and short; plod denies everything - even though the incident was verified by two charity workers. Best motive I can see is wanting to move these people onto another patch.

Not really been in any feuds with DPS, and found him ok most of the time. Wasn't impressed with his suggestion that anyone who might be worried about the NSA scandal was a paedo with something to hide. Fair to say he's dipped in form lately? Happens to the best of us.

If correct, then this was a very good shout, Saint Charlie. Didn't see this thread before it was bumped. A lot of what you say makes sense. Can you speak any more on how you might be hearing this?

I haven't seen any, mucker. Got a couple of links?

Yes. If I went and took a homeless person's possessions, it'd be called robbery with intimidation. When the coppers do it, it's called confiscation. Personally, I can't really reconcile kids being in detention, pretty much the only sanction teachers have left, with Her Majesty's Constabulary turning up mob-handed to "confiscate" possessions from the homeless. Stuff like sleeping bags and tents; things they probably need.

Totalitarian regime? Big lols. There's a thread about coppers confiscating the possessions of the homeless over in the Lounge, mate. It has about four posts, including two from me. Virtually no-one cares, but it's a much better fit for accusations of totalitarian regime than a football club changing its shirt.

Very good stuff, Brave Sir Robin. I like this theory.

Banned. Mods, details please. We need to organise an appropriate level of outrage/celebration depending on severity of ban.

It's almost unbelievable, and seems to be the exact opposite of what their function is supposed to be; provide a duty to the public. Really does raise questions about what the police are there to do; protect the public or operate as the bully boy of the state.

Not coastal, but we were up at the Lakes this Christmas (plenty of water). Even in off-season, it was excellent. I'd look into the sort of activities you can get up to in the summer.

This story has popped up a couple of times on my Facebook timeline recently. It's a couple of months old, but I don't remember it being discussed. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-seize-possessions-of-rough-sleepers-in-crackdown-on-homelessness-8631665.html The OB are cracking down on homelessness. The way to do that, according to this Independent article, is to get law enforcement agencies to confiscate the few possessions these people have. I'm personally not sure how that solves the problem, exactly. They claim it "reduces the negative impact of rough sleepers". I reckon we can find better things for the OB to do than rob the homeless. As always, other views are invited.

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I was going to answer this seriously, but after seeing Taylforth's name mentioned for the second time today, I can only assume that this is the start of her latest comeback and funds-deprived, she's getting posters on football forums (like yourself) to chirp fondly about her finest moments. Shame on you, bletch. Always had you pegged as a man who couldn't be bought!

No denial that you might be dune, Bazza? You're slipping, guv'nor!

Don't think I'll have time for any of that. I'm currently trying to find 80s bling, a Mark IV Cortina (shamelessly customised) and a large gold medallion. Opportunities like this don't come along very often; I plan to live as an 80s soap star.